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Originally Posted by FOZ_1983
Ah Soviet...
Quick to late the good old workhorse of the RAF during the summer of 1940, but you seem to forget that the crate your slating just happened to down more Luftwaffe planes than all other defences combined during the Battle of Britain.
You don't like it i know, and you enjoy disregarding it, but the truth of the matter is.... it was a very adequate fighter in 1940 and did its job.... extremely well  it stopped us all from speaking German.
If you want to go up in a very forgiving, stable gun platform that could take a fair bit of battle damage and a fighter than can hold its own against the best the Lufwaffe could throw at you... then you take the Hurricane.
British enginuity
If we had those soviet crates then we would all be speaking German for sure!! They would never be able to get up high enough to fight the enemy.  |
Wait just a second Foz, I never said I hated or disregarded Spits and Hurricanes. I like them both just fine, and think they're both beautiful planes. But you know I just like razzing you guys a bit. If I didn't like Hurricanes or Spits, do you think I'd have put a French MS406 pic in my sig? No. Sadly, but true, the MS406 was a worse plane than either the Hurricane and Spit in a dogfight, but I still love it because it's just such an odd plane and I think it'd be fun to go up against some early 109Ds in a MS406. So I don't disregard or hate the Hurricane/Spit, they're both fine planes.
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Originally Posted by bobbysocks
the first yak-1s started production in the early part of 1940 ( the prototype flew in 39 ) and werent war tested. at the time of the german invasion of russia there were only 400.,,and i am sure joe the benevolent wasnt about the lend lease them to anyone. so too little too late for the Bob. and like dave said the westeran air war was high altitude, 18k and up, not the best enviroment for russian planes. so if they did fly yaks they would have been one step closer to speaking german. the fins sure liked them from what i read. they were swating them down even before they got 109s in brewster buffalos no less...
ps thanks dave..
foz you must have posted at the same time as me....ditto
and as a last foot note....the brits did better at the beginning of their air war with "those old crates" than russia did when germany invaded. did the uk have1 inch of soil under a german hobnail boot?? hmmm let me think....NO!
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Bob, relax man, I'm just playing around like always. Like me and Foz, how we always razz each other on a Hurricane vs. Yak-1 match, just to see what would be better? There's nothing serious behind my words, they're just for fun. I have respect for those guys flying Hurricanes and Spits, but I'm Soviet Ace, I've got to always include Soviet Planes somewhere!
And also, the difference between Britain and Russia, is Britain has a huge channel between them and mainland Europe, which gave them a breather before Hitler could assemble a force to cross himself. Russia does not have any of that. Sort of like the "Eastern France" at the time. Not ready, not sure it'd happen that soon, and when it did, was totally caught off guard. You can't really compare the BoB to the outset of Operation Barbarossa. Mainly because Hitler learned after the BoB, that striking enemy airfields would be key to a quick victory. (If the Luftwaffe had kept on the British Airfields, they probably would have been victorious, and Britain would be speaking German anyways.) That's why when he struck East, Russian airfields were bombed and attacked almost non-stop in the initial push, and all the way up until Stalingrad.
09-07-2010, 11:32 PM
a sad sad fact.
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