Heinkel 111, The Frantisek's remarks.

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Originally Posted by winny

That's what I like, a 'disscussion over' post.

Good post, good info, good result!

Hehe, I wouldn't say it is over yet.

Rodolphe, do you have some images of the He-111 with the nose MG pointing upwards?

[KG26_Alpha]

Isn't this the one shown correctly modelled ?

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Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Isn't this the one shown correctly modelled?

It is.

[Rodolphe]

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I love to see that some Guys paid attention of what I've been posting here !


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[Rodolphe]

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1. Nose gunner never sat like that. I have never seen a seat mounted there, plus physically there is no space to put the feet like that!

I could not find any photo (among numerous pictures available) of that "Bomber/Navigator/Gunner" crew member sitting on the front of the "Liegeboden" (bench).
Though not totaly impossible, this sitting posture is very unlikely.






















































The most usual lay down position.





































The usual sitting position is on this folding "jump" seat.




































On this poor quality picture, crewmembers take up the "Liegeboden" and the "Klappsitz" (folding seat).













Frantisek, B-Stand, auf Gefechtsstation !!


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[FG28_Kodiak]

You should take a look at this video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o...ovietique_tech
it shows a H11, but the most is similar to the H2

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Originally Posted by Rodolphe

Does this picture show that the forward 'glass bowl' can be rotated and thus the MG that usually points down can point up? With this mechanism shown on the diagram I mean... or is this for something else?

Originally Posted by FG28_Kodiak

You should take a look at this video:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3o...ovietique_tech
it shows a H11, but the most is similar to the H2

Yeah it is He-111 H-11, but never the less some interesting things can be seen in the video - for example: nose gunner/bombardier can also act as a copilot by moving over the control yoke from pilots position. I wonder if we will have this option in SoW?

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

Does this picture show that the forward 'glass bowl' can be rotated and thus the MG that usually points down can point up?

Yes, the Kuppellafette DG 1114-A serves as a mobile cupola for the MG 15.











On the video of FG28 Kodiak, the Kuppellafette equiped with the MG FF on this He111, can't be rotate.

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

With this mechanism shown on the diagram I mean... or is this for something else?

It's the Bomben-Klappen operating system.




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[Flying Pencil]

Hello everyone!

Sorry did not follow up earlier.
First the Do-17z,

THEN lightning hit my house and fried my internet. Still down.

Doing this from work (first day back)...

1. I see a healthy debate on the nose gunner
2. Missed the note on the gunner.
3. Did not know of that more cylindrical antenna, but it also looks different from the one modeled.

Finally that one modern picture of a fella in the top turret of 111 (couple of posts above, Rodolphe noted), that me!!

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Originally Posted by Frantishek

3. Did not know of that more cylindrical antenna, but it also looks different from the one modeled.

To me it looks just right, not so detailed, but just right.