nazi info real or fiction?

[leggit]

quote: Winston Churchill:

" I have taken more out of drink, than drink has taken out of me."

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by winny

I think Churchill became a liability the moment WW2 ceased as by that time he was a serious alcoholic. He was the perfect wartime prime minister though.

Hmm, is that why he was again Prime Minister of Britain in 1951, at the age of 77?
He was already 71 at the general election in 1945.
If he did drink a bit, I'd say he bloody deserved it!

[winny]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

Hmm, is that why he was again Prime Minister of Britain in 1951, at the age of 77?
He was already 71 at the general election in 1945.
If he did drink a bit, I'd say he bloody deserved it!

Maybe he just needed a few years to sober up!
Listen to his 'finest hour' speach.. he was very drunk! (it was late tho!)

[Blackdog_kt]

I think that Churchill was so strongly identified as an icon of the wartime era, that when the war was over he was pushed aside as part of the war itself. That's not entirely bad in itself, if we believe the notions that he was in favor of continuing the war against the USSR.

Loss of life aside, i doubt that the western allies could not have won against USSR even with nukes. The rate of A-bomb production was so slow initially, that coupled with the the Soviet's disregard of casualties would not be a serious advantage, not to mention that most of the Soviet industry was already behind the Urals due to WWII. If the western allies attacked the Soviets and provoked them into all out war, it's very possible that face of Europe today and the history of the cold war era would be totally different. In that sense, i think that it's good we were spared a second round of hostilities between the former allies.

[Splitter]

For future despots and dictators:

Rule number 1 - Do NOT invade Russia! It gets cold there, really cold. Then it gets muddy. And the place is HUGE. Plus, there are a lot of Russians and they are very tough and motivated.



Splitter

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I think that Churchill was so strongly identified as an icon of the wartime era, that when the war was over he was pushed aside as part of the war itself. That's not entirely bad in itself, if we believe the notions that he was in favor of continuing the war against the USSR.

Loss of life aside, i doubt that the western allies could not have won against USSR even with nukes. The rate of A-bomb production was so slow initially, that coupled with the the Soviet's disregard of casualties would not be a serious advantage, not to mention that most of the Soviet industry was already behind the Urals due to WWII. If the western allies attacked the Soviets and provoked them into all out war, it's very possible that face of Europe today and the history of the cold war era would be totally different. In that sense, i think that it's good we were spared a second round of hostilities between the former allies.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Well, all things considered, I think we all did a great job in taking this thread away from the daft notion of including ridiculous german saucer rubbish in 'Storm of War'.
Actually, the sim's title is also taken from a Churchill speech;
'to ride out the Storm of War, if necessary for years, if necessary alone'.*

Seems like we're doing just that....................


*Although It may not have been exclusively his!

[proton45]

Thats a fun video clip... I like this one too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4DW1uvsAE

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

If the next title is as biased as the previous one ... then we need the Haunebu for sure ...

[ElAurens]

The remaining Avro Aerocar now resides at the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright Patterson AFB, Dayton Ohio.

I've seen it.

It's laughable at best.

[Madfish]

Seeing how the allied responded to the first sightings of ME262's like: "What the HELL was THAT?" it isn't weird to say that people perceive shapes and appearances differently.

Saucer shape... it doesn't matter if it has a propeller if it looks reasonably different from a typical airplane design of that time. It doesn't even matter if it's super or not - an experiment always has some purpose, even if that is just to see it doesn't really work well.

However, adding these planes has little value to the sim since their performance wasn't the best at that time. But the community could add them later on.

Generally I have nothing against a wide variety of planes. Even stuff like Lerche was very fun to fly in IL-2. The number of real hardcore simmers is much less than those are actually average players and enjoying even absurd planes just for the fun, not for showing off their elite skills by downing everything in sight with the perfect plane for that matter.
So I just hope SoW will be moddable. I don't care how absurd a plane is if it's fun to play the game.