Wich joystick to buy?

[MikkOwl]

I have a Logitech Extreme 3D PRO also. It works 'okay'. Has a nasty twist-stick which works very badly and feels loose and nasty, which I wish could be locked somehow. Accuracy is not great either but with curves it is not a big concern. Has a throttle flap for the left hand which works very well if on a desk. The ergonomics are excellent; superbly comfortable to use. Great for the non-hardcore or poorer flight simmer. Something to give to a friend so they can get introduced to something like IL-2 without hassle.

I have a G940 also. It has a lot of good things about it but has some really really nasty driver problems that are infuriating. Especially the 'reversal bug' - has been in existance for a whole year yet Logitech has not yet fixed it. The force feedback is great and apart from the bug, the stick feels like a very solid, high quality item with no flex or twist. Comes with Throttle and Pedals (both severely affected by the reversal bug as of yet). The cost is far too high for the original poster however so just mention it for comparison. I would not recommend it to anyone unless the reversal bug is fixed.

My recommendation judging by what the poster asked for would be one of those CH sticks. Accurate, durable workhorses.

Force feedback - For sure the G-forces in the whole body are much, much more noticeable than the changing forces in the control stick. But never the less, the real controls, especially in something like a Bf 109 with a single grip stick and very cramped cabin, do change with speed. From very loose to extremely tight. There's also other forces such as vibrations, uneven airflow over wings when near stall or with gears down etc. In reality the whole body is also thrown around along with the vibrations/movements felt in the stick. Force feedback moving the stick around at the right frequency can help simulate the effect of having the real body/arm thrown around.

Having no real G-forces to deal with at all, the feeling from force feedback in IL-2 adds a lot for me. Super cool. Downsides is noise, cost, heat, electricity, cabling and the movement/resistance feels more notchy the more resistance there is.