Friday 2010-07-23 Dev. update and Discussions

[mark@1C]

A question, who can tell me please what are those four shining spots in the first picture?
Reflected light from He-111? Then from the body or the canopy?
I feel a little odd, I mean if it came from the body, the shining spots should be bigger than that have been shown, shouldn't they? Or if it came from the canopy, then where are their bodies? Vanished in the blue sky, because of their camouflage? Or they are just navigation lights? In a daytime in a white colour?
Those four shining spots really look a little odd for me at such a distance in the picture, just like four UFOs...

[Drum_tastic]

So many experts here!

Shouldn't the fire look like this....?

Those tracers they don't look right.....

I hope that this is not the finished product terrain, it doesn't look right.....

Even though it is usually specified that the updates are work in progress!

Well you guys have got plenty of choice in the cutting edge WW2 combat sim market to choose from, why not just vote with your feet and go and play the one of your choice, you know, the one that has got everything spot on.

Or how about all you experts build your own sim and publish a weekly update for us to take a look at? I am sure Oleg would give you a few pointers.

Leave the guys alone to get on with their work. I am just totally happy to see the progress and knowing that at some stage we will all be able to play this. Isn't that enough for you people?

Anyway, I got some drums to play.

[koivis]

Originally Posted by Drum_tastic

So many experts here!

Shouldn't the fire look like this....?

Those tracers they don't look right.....

I hope that this is not the finished product terrain, it doesn't look right.....

Even though it is usually specified that the updates are work in progress!

Well you guys have got plenty of choice in the cutting edge WW2 combat sim market to choose from, why not just vote with your feet and go and play the one of your choice, you know, the one that has got everything spot on.

Or how about all you experts build your own sim and publish a weekly update for us to take a look at? I am sure Oleg would give you a few pointers.

Leave the guys alone to get on with their work. I am just totally happy to see the progress and knowing that at some stage we will all be able to play this. Isn't that enough for you people?

Anyway, I got some drums to play.

"Look, I made a flight sim, here's some pics for you" (picture shows the most detailed model of Hawker Hurricane and He 111 ever modelled on a playable sim with very detailed damage).
Response: "Nonono, the fire looks bad, tracers too and oh man you gotta not release this with those crappy ground textures, so awful..."

Ehh...?

Brando and the post I quoted have a point. I really can't see any other WWII flight sims this realistic and detailed in the near future, than this one. Yes, the fire may NOT be 100% correct, the groud textures may NOT be perfect etc. But, still it's WIP, as has been said 364757436 times already. Have a nice vacation Oleg, and do not worry, we are not THAT inpatient yet. Indeed, not yet.

[No601_Swallow]

Originally Posted by Drum_tastic

So many experts here!

Shouldn't the fire look like this....?

Those tracers they don't look right.....

Thanks, Drumtastic. That's pretty much what I was going to say.

Oleg - ignore the know-it-alls! Personally I feel privileged just to be able to see these WOP updates. Thank you!

[louisv]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

maybe it's because we been waiting this since 2005, and 5 years later see some things too similar to il2 engine, makes you wonder why.

If what you have been seeing in the updates in the last few weeks looks to you like IL-2, then there is no hope for you

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by louisv

If what you have been seeing in the updates in the last few weeks looks to you like IL-2, then there is no hope for you

The smoke looks like Il-2, the sky looks like Il-2, the clouds (when not lit to show the individual particles) look like Il-2 so I can see what he's saying. Of course, I can see all these features being haveily tweaked, but it's not really 2010 standard. I have full faith in the team, but we need to see this in video form to get a real grasp of it.
But really I can see so many things that are similar to Il-2; smoke and fire that just don't look right (I have seen lots of WW2 guncam footage, a fair amount in colour, and the smoke doesn't look like this, and the fire in the hurricane pic just looks odd) so really I can see that certain features are like they have been regurgetated from Il-2. Take the tracer, the tracer from the .303's that I've seen in guncam videos has had smoke-trails behind the burning tracer. This looks a bit like Il-2's lasers...

But really people take these comments too seriously; they are just small aspects of the game, and it'd be pages of essays to concentrate on each individual amazing aspect.

[Avimimus]

Err... The closest thing we have to 2010 standard for flightsims is Lock-on Flaming Cliffs 2 and Rise of Flight - not a very large sample.

Just have faith. It will appear over-saturated - because that is what Oleg does. It will come out with a few details looking a bit like Il-2 - because the project is being rushed a little. It will be astounding - because that is what Oleg does. Finally, it will be developed further (by Oleg or 3rd parties).

So, yes, I take your comments far too seriously (especially as the tracers last week were dots and now they've become lines). Very silly of my really.

[SlipBall]

IL-2 was done very well, to the point that we all still fly it. I really don't expect SOW to look that much different from what was very much, near perfection. It certainly will look better in the end, just stop the critique of every up-date, and say thank you for a change of pace.

[Jaws2002]

I see some of you here are really acting like the "vilage idiot" with your rude coments. Is because of this kind of morons, Oleg stoped being directly involved with the IL-2 community. I think you guys need to have a good look in the mirror and stay away from this forum for a while. You are not helping one bit.

[Tone71]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

IL-2 was done very well, to the point that we all still fly it. I really don't expect SOW to look that much different from what was very much, near perfection. It certainly will look better in the end, just stop the critique of every up-date, and say thank you for a change of pace.

Couldn't agree more. Let's not forget that IL-2 is almost 9 years old! And graphically still puts many new games to shame.