several questions!

[winny]

Initially when you play this online you can't really compete in Realistic or Sim unless ur in a Hurricane or a Spit or an LA-7. You can be competitive in most of the 109's and the 190's as long as you dont get into a turning battle with people because that could get messy.

The marks of Spitfire don't help because Mark V spitfires should be there and not the XVI.. It's basically the same as the IX so you've got 2 versions of the 'best' spitfire. 190's dominated Mk V spits and IX's dominated the fw's.. (generally). The F-4 is a lovley dogfighter but it's lack of armour means you only need a short burst and it's instantly unflyable..

I hate to agree with gorden, but the dive speeds do seem wrong and as diving was the main way 109's and 190's evaded being shot down, you can't really do it online as you never have really have the altitude to get far enough away for it to be usefull.

For a console game I'd say it was pretty accurate, It's got flaws but all the really good pilots on here do well in whatever they fly.

[kjwright]

Originally Posted by winny

Initially when you play this online you can't really compete in Realistic or Sim unless ur in a Hurricane or a Spit or an LA-7. You can be competitive in most of the 109's and the 190's as long as you dont get into a turning battle with people because that could get messy.

I beg to differ good sir. Ive seen and have been competitive In both the P51 and P47. It all comes down to settings on your controller. Also I prefer the BF109F-4 for the same reasons real life pilots like Gunther Rall did. And that is the extra Weapons and armor make the g-models sluggish. But I have to give Demetia this and that the 190 should be able to turn a hell of alot better then it does.

[bobbysocks]

kjwright....if you have been competitive in a P 51 then i really want you to mentor me! if you look at my sig you will see it is where my heart lays....but no matter what setting i choose it is a spinning POC below 5 grand at speeds it should never have stalled at no matter what the settings. it is my understanding they ( the settings) were loaded for an ac with drop tanks ( full)...so that would account for the crappy performance. but if you are terrorizing the skies in a 'stang....buddy i am your willing student. teach me.

[Dementia_Seven]

ok thank you for ur reply

lets go to the elevator settings if it was so important. i guess it just keeps you from turning the plane to hard and make the whole thing unstable. normal spit gets 5 fields minus maximum and a bf109 three

someone told me online a silver mustang needs 6 klicks minus maximm but i cant control the plane real good as bevore. could u help??? whe i move into o loop and make a bit of rudder at the top to purchase my enemy it mostly spinns out. the elevator 5-6 klicks even with the foker wulfs, how should i set the elevator?

And i have to say the foker wulf ta152 was given us for free and it flys like that. but if you read the rare reports of that plane at the end of the war you will find out that this mashine rescue the lives of thier pilots through the lasst days of ww2. in the reports is written than it could turn perfectly in the sky and so on. why did the developers made such a joke out of that plane?

thanks for reading...

[kjwright]

Originally Posted by bobbysocks

kjwright....if you have been competitive in a P 51 then i really want you to mentor me! if you look at my sig you will see it is where my heart lays....but no matter what setting i choose it is a spinning POC below 5 grand at speeds it should never have stalled at no matter what the settings. it is my understanding they ( the settings) were loaded for an ac with drop tanks ( full)...so that would account for the crappy performance. but if you are terrorizing the skies in a 'stang....buddy i am your willing student. teach me.

I usally set the setting 1 click more then half way. now every now and then i may finish 1st or 2nd usally im atleast in the top 5. and i go based off the principles set in ww1. maainly attacking with height advantage. Cause thats how most pilots got kills was do to the fact that the enemy didnt know they were their until it was to late. and with the .50cals you have to get top of fuselage and the cockpit. i usually throttle back when i feel they are gonna make a turn or go vertical then pull up after them and drift the bullets down into the cockpit or go for the wing tips. when being chased i go as low as possible and keep turning, make the other guy worry about crashing just never stay in straight line. Now im not a expert but im grasping the lack of cannon issues and doin well. my first team battle in sim i got compliments for even with me in a P47 i got 8 kills

[Dementia_Seven]

the foker wulf ta152 was given us for free and it flys like that. but if you read the rare reports of that plane at the end of the war you will find out that this mashine rescue the lives of thier pilots through the lasst days of ww2. in the reports is written than it could turn perfectly in the sky and so on. why did the developers made such a joke out of that plane?

is there any threat for elevatorsettings to set all planes right in sim mode?

so please Soviet Ace: i guess the la`s got wingguns! please correct me if i´m wrong about this.

and i got another question: the wep or how its called is an extra injection of fuel ore something. every plane got onother wep energy and time in the real life. why is the wep-time in arcade so short and in sim mode u can use it all the time? i guess in arcade u should not fly so fast unlimited but why could u use it unlimited in sim?

thx for reading

[SEE]

BOP is not a true flight Sim, all the ac in BOP outperform their historical counterparts.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Dementia_Seven

the foker wulf ta152 was given us for free and it flys like that. but if you read the rare reports of that plane at the end of the war you will find out that this mashine rescue the lives of thier pilots through the lasst days of ww2. in the reports is written than it could turn perfectly in the sky and so on. why did the developers made such a joke out of that plane?

is there any threat for elevatorsettings to set all planes right in sim mode?

so please Soviet Ace: i guess the la`s got wingguns! please correct me if i´m wrong about this.

and i got another question: the wep or how its called is an extra injection of fuel ore something. every plane got onother wep energy and time in the real life. why is the wep-time in arcade so short and in sim mode u can use it all the time? i guess in arcade u should not fly so fast unlimited but why could u use it unlimited in sim?

thx for reading

No, no La ever had outboard wing guns. Always in the nose. Even after the war, La's didn't have outboard wing guns because it reduced their ability to roll and turn sharper. (That's why all 190s could out turn or roll a Spit; because of the wings and the guns in the wings. The Spitfire had it easier when they clipped the wings, but the outboard wing guns didn't make the problem any better in the end.)

And just to note, you do know that Henrich Focke (one of them men to bring the 190 together) and Anthony Fokker (the man who made some planes for German in WW1, and then just for the Netherlands in the 1920s on wards) are two different people, right? One's an actual German, and the other's a Dutchman.

[The Few]

Originally Posted by Dementia_Seven

and i got another question: the wep or how its called is an extra injection of fuel ore something. every plane got onother wep energy and time in the real life. why is the wep-time in arcade so short and in sim mode u can use it all the time? i guess in arcade u should not fly so fast unlimited but why could u use it unlimited in sim?

It isn't unlimited in sim, if you use wep for too long your engine will burn out and stop working. usually this happens roughly after 7-10 min of continuous use.

[winny]

Originally Posted by kjwright

I beg to differ good sir. Ive seen and have been competitive In both the P51 and P47. It all comes down to settings on your controller. Also I prefer the BF109F-4 for the same reasons real life pilots like Gunther Rall did. And that is the extra Weapons and armor make the g-models sluggish. But I have to give Demetia this and that the 190 should be able to turn a hell of alot better then it does.

I meant when you first play it online. Like I said the good pilots can be competieive in pretty much any type.