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Old 07-06-2010, 10:03 AM
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I cannot say how historically accurate the combat tactics are in IL1946, but I am currently flying the YAK 1 in the final stages of the war from the Russian perspective and noticed that the squadron frequently fly at low altitude (approx. 5000 ft) with cover provided by high altitude LA's or another group of Yaks. The German FW's -BF's, etc, use their better climb rate to escape horizontal turning fights and are bounced by the group above. Rockets are used by the squadron when engaging Bombers including JU87's (and quite effectively).

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Old 07-06-2010, 07:29 PM
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I cannot say how historically accurate the combat tactics are in IL1946, but I am currently flying the YAK 1 in the final stages of the war from the Russian perspective and noticed that the squadron frequently fly at low altitude (approx. 5000 ft) with cover provided by high altitude LA's or another group of Yaks. The German FW's -BF's, etc, use their better climb rate to escape horizontal turning fights and are bounced by the group above. Rockets are used by the squadron when engaging Bombers including JU87's (and quite effectively).
Yeah, '46 is pretty accurate with it's combat tactics and formations. In reality, Soviet tactics were like that. Have the weaker plane down low to be "jumped" and have either La's or Yak's fly cover. When the Yak-3 came out, it actually replaced most of the La's on the Eastern Front as a top cover plane. The La's were reverted to attacking bombers mostly since they had the fire power to do so. But by the end of the war, the Soviet Union already had air supremacy, so most of the planes weren't attached with rockets unless obviously used against ground targets.

But '46 also uses experimental tactics, that weren't put to so much use, or were just ideas that were leaked out from some where.
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Old 07-06-2010, 10:46 PM
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Thank you for the info.. I will def practice with it.. I was flying the I 16 last night and loved it. Only thing is the engine would sometimes randomly cut off !?
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Old 07-06-2010, 11:30 PM
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Thank you for the info.. I will def practice with it.. I was flying the I 16 last night and loved it. Only thing is the engine would sometimes randomly cut off !?
That's because it's got a float carburetor instead of fuel injection. The Yak-1, Hawker Hurricane, and Yak-9 should all cut out when you attempt to roll or dive without rolling (just pointing the stick forward from level flight). But it seems the I-16 and I-153 are the only two planes in BoP that are effected like this.

It's because you're cutting the fuel from getting to the engine, so the engine cuts out. And it also happens if you're using WEP too often or for too long. So when flying the I-16, always roll into a dive and don't use WEP so often. It'll burn your engine out and just kill it for good. (They didn't make it possible to restart the engine in a dive like in '46.)
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:29 AM
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That's because it's got a float carburetor instead of fuel injection. The Yak-1, Hawker Hurricane, and Yak-9 should all cut out when you attempt to roll or dive without rolling (just pointing the stick forward from level flight). But it seems the I-16 and I-153 are the only two planes in BoP that are effected like this.

It's because you're cutting the fuel from getting to the engine, so the engine cuts out. And it also happens if you're using WEP too often or for too long. So when flying the I-16, always roll into a dive and don't use WEP so often. It'll burn your engine out and just kill it for good. (They didn't make it possible to restart the engine in a dive like in '46.)
OK, Thanks.. I'll have to remember this..
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:16 PM
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That's because it's got a float carburetor instead of fuel injection. The Yak-1, Hawker Hurricane, and Yak-9 should all cut out when you attempt to roll or dive without rolling (just pointing the stick forward from level flight). But it seems the I-16 and I-153 are the only two planes in BoP that are effected like this.

It's because you're cutting the fuel from getting to the engine, so the engine cuts out. And it also happens if you're using WEP too often or for too long. So when flying the I-16, always roll into a dive and don't use WEP so often. It'll burn your engine out and just kill it for good. (They didn't make it possible to restart the engine in a dive like in '46.)
Actually you can restart the engine in a dive if you're high enough, its just the propeller doesn't continue to spin with the engine once you pull up out the dive. It just jams itsself, another silly bug is my guess; nobody ever game tested it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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Actually you can restart the engine in a dive if you're high enough, its just the propeller doesn't continue to spin with the engine once you pull up out the dive. It just jams itsself, another silly bug is my guess; nobody ever game tested it.
It's not that your propeller gets jammed, it's because you didn't engage the flywheel to the engine. (They didn't bother adding it in BoP like '46.) Like most radial 30s planes, and other planes in WW2 (109s for example). When starting the engine, there was a crank for the flywheel. Wind it up enough, and then either flip a switch, push/pull a small lever, and you've got a roaring engine ready to go. But all you're doing in BoP is cracking the flywheel, and instead of making a little ticking sort of sound when wound up, they just put the engine sounds. So you don't actually restart it, it just sounds like you do.



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Old 07-09-2010, 12:52 AM
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Youre right Ace, it does look just like the first video, just with the engine noise starting again. Another sign of a rushed game for me. Sound effects in BoP really are quite poor arn't they.
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