Friday 2010-06-25 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Indeed great update. Hard to pick a favorite shot among them.

Two question that come to mind:

1. The building in the first shot is one of Foobars and is clearly a German building, yet it does house British vehicles. Is this just a result of a random mix or do you plan to use his buildings out of context?

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My first thought also was that it doesn't look very English, especially with that roof. I agree that it looks like Foo'bar's modelling style. Foo'bar, is it German?
Maybe it is a French fire station? We haven't seen many (or any?) French buildings yet.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by major_setback

My first thought also was that it doesn't look very English, especially with that roof. I agree that it looks like Foo'bar's modelling style. Foo'bar, is it German?
Maybe it is a French fire station? We haven't seen many (or any?) French buildings yet.

The house is very much German.
But I wouldn't take that very seriously. I think it's just an example to give us a screenshot. Doesn't worry me at all.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Stab = relocated to Paris with Ju 88 by 20.6.40

I. = converted to Ju 88 by 10.5.40

II. = set-up with Ju 88

III. = converted to Ju 88 by 20.6.40

IV. = set-up with Ju 88

Now, with BoB beginning in July 1940, there is no chance to see a He111 of KG 51 during this campaign.

Zorin -- I am very knowledgable about the BoB. Just to say this first.
The BoB beginning in July (10th) is very much a british definition. You will find very different view in Germany. Anti-shipping raids were conducted immediately after and even during the French campaign, and yes, 51 was equipped with He 111 during that time, until almost end june 40.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Richie

They are fantastic but is the spinner on the Hurricane a little too blunt or rounded off at the tip?

Some early ones were quite round. I have always liked the Airfix 1/24 scale Hurricane, it has this type of spinner.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Should be a Heinkel He 111 H-3. The H-3 was the first to have the MG FF in the Bugstand. Though it could also be a H-4, but I would need to see the underside of it to tell. What is actually odd though is the ventral gondola, which only has a gunner station at the rear, which would point to a H-1.

My source on the He 111, Manfred Griehl's book published as part of the Luftwaffe Profile Series by Schiffer, says that initial production H-3s had only one gun in the ventral position and that the later H-3/R-3 added an additional ventral MG 15 or MG 131. So, it could be that what we see in the screenshot is indeed an early production H-3. The question is, when was the R-3 mod authorized?

[bf-110]

Oh my poor VGA...

Look at the details of that house.Imagine a city like London with thousands of high-res buildings like that.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by Richie

They are fantastic but is the spinner on the Hurricane a little too blunt or rounded off at the tip?

There where two type of spinners on the early Hurricane. The original spinner was produced by de Haviland and quite small and pointy. This is the spinner you will see on the IL2 in-game Hurricane Mk.I. Due to shortage, Rotol propellers/spinners originally designed for Spitfires where also used. These where large and blunt and actually a bit to large for the engine housing. The result was oil splashing on the windscreen. An oil-catcher ring was installed on all Hurricanes to counter it.

With the introduction of the Mk.IIb models, a new spinners was made. This new spinner was longer than either the old de Haviland or Rotor, and was made to fit the Hurricane properly. The oil-catcher ring was retained though. If you look at the Hurricane Mk.IIb or c in-game, you will see this new longer spinner and the oil-catcher. We don't have a Rotol spinner Hurricane in L2.

Here's a picture of some Sea Hurricanes. The one closest to the camera has a Rotol spinner, the others have the older pointy de Havilands.

[philip.ed]

Actually I have a Rotol in my Il-2; it depends which version of the game you are playing, if you get my drift

[Friendly_flyer]

I know, I'm the one who made the default skins for that bunch. I should have picked my words more carefully.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

I know, I'm the one who made the default skins for that bunch. I should have picked my words more carefully.

*slaps head* stupid me!