Best Heavy tank

[KnightFandragon]

Centurions are pitiful........Ive seen people call the T29 crap for armor...its the Cent. It has like 160 on the turret and 67 on the hull....67? srsly, on a 1945 tank....67...geez, even the Chi Ri has better armor then that

[FM_Von_Manstein]

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

Centurions are pitiful........Ive seen people call the T29 crap for armor...its the Cent. It has like 160 on the turret and 67 on the hull....67? srsly, on a 1945 tank....67...geez, even the Chi Ri has better armor then that

They include the crappy Centurion in MoW. Not the good one, and the Cent isn't even a Heavy Tank. Its the world's 1st Modern MBT. And it kicked ass.

[Evilsausage]

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

Centurions are pitiful........Ive seen people call the T29 crap for armor...its the Cent. It has like 160 on the turret and 67 on the hull....67? srsly, on a 1945 tank....67...geez, even the Chi Ri has better armor then that

Yup the Centurion is shit. Only time its good is when its in a hull down position. However it has more then 67 in armor. It has 80mm sloped armor.
But thats still not much for a unit that cost 76 points.

From what iv heard the Centurions armors will have 120mm in the expansion. However thats only a rumor.

[FM_Von_Manstein]

Originally Posted by Evilsausage

Yup the Centurion is shit. Only time its good is when its in a hull down position. However it has more then 67 in armor. It has 80mm sloped armor.
But thats still not much for a unit that cost 76 points.

From what iv heard the Centurions armors will have 120mm in the expansion. However thats only a rumor.

The Centurion is only shit in the game. The Centurion Mk 5/2 had the famous 105 mm L7 rifled gun, and a max armor thickness of 150mm, 6 inches. That was on the turret, the hull had 76.2mm, 3 inches, well sloped armor.

[KnightFandragon]

Originally Posted by FM_Von_Manstein

The Centurion is only shit in the game. The Centurion Mk 5/2 had the famous 105 mm L7 rifled gun, and a max armor thickness of 150mm, 6 inches. That was on the turret, the hull had 76.2mm, 3 inches, well sloped armor.

And 76mm is like not much better then regular war tanks...the 88 eats it for lunch all the same =P I wouldnt wanna be a Cent crewman..King Tiger all the way, even if it means dodging P47 bombs and Tempest rockets

[Zeke Wolff]

The Centurion that you see in the game, is basically an Israelian version with the wrong gun, etc. The 6 Centurions that was rushed to Europe in May 1945 and arrived in combat units two weeks AFTER the war ended, did have a 17 pounder (that´s 76mm) main gun and a 20mm coaxial automatic cannon. The turret also looked very different from what we´ve in the game right now.

So, what you do get in the game, is a Centurion Mk. I with the correct main gun, but with everything else... plain wrong and it shouldnt even be in the game in the first place, since it was never used during WW2. A better UK tank to have added, would´ve been the Comet A34, which is was almost as good as the Panther.

~Zeke.

[KnightFandragon]

There is a mod I DL'd that had the A41 Black Prince. Looks like a Churchill Hull and Comet Turret w/ a 76mm. Weird for sure

[FM_Von_Manstein]

Originally Posted by Zeke Wolff

The Centurion that you see in the game, is basically an Israelian version with the wrong gun, etc. The 6 Centurions that was rushed to Europe in May 1945 and arrived in combat units two weeks AFTER the war ended, did have a 17 pounder (that´s 76mm) main gun and a 20mm coaxial automatic cannon. The turret also looked very different from what we´ve in the game right now.

So, what you do get in the game, is a Centurion Mk. I with the correct main gun, but with everything else... plain wrong and it shouldnt even be in the game in the first place, since it was never used during WW2. A better UK tank to have added, would´ve been the Comet A34, which is was almost as good as the Panther.

~Zeke.

Comet like never saw action either. But it doesn't matter what they add because there's nothing that the 88 can't pwn. Even if they added the T-62 (Which was from the 60s). The 88 couldn't penetrate it frontally but if it got repeated hits on the turret in the same spot it might be able to knock it out eventually. The 88 was just too good, IIRC the L7 105 did surpass it in AT capability and obviously its superior than the 88 when firing HE.

[Zeke Wolff]

The Comet A34 were introduced in February 1945 and fully issued to one UK Armored Regiment before the end of the war. It´s true that it never saw much action, but it was used in combat against German tanks, even if only rarely. Unlike the Centurion and Turtoise (the latter never even ever been accepted for service by the UK), the Comet A34 was used during WW2 and that´s the difference.

I like my WW2 games to be historical correct when dealing with vehicles and such, and I do not like to see these prototypes that never saw service (T29 for example), and/or tanks that was introduced into service after the war. I really don´t care if a tank can´t go up frontally against a German 88 or not. That´s why flanking manouvers was invented...

~Zeke.