Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY on IL2 Authorized Addons

[Daniël]

Originally Posted by Furio

I have already posted some proposals in another thread, and one of these seems to me good enough to be “reprinted” here. I was simply asking to concentrate more on AI only planes.

To explain better: with the latest additions, we now have a HUGE amount of flyable planes, with a vast choices for almost any conceivable pilot’s career, with almost any of the combatants. All major types are there, with some minor and exotic ones for good measure, and even a quote of “what ifs”. What is still lacking, in my opinion, is some variety in targets, mainly in bombers. To begin with, we have no British night bombers, and they will be sorely needed to complement the new radar equipped Bf110. If radar could be adapted for the Mosquito night fighter, there’ll be a similar need for German night bomber of the “Steinbock” period, like the Do217 or He177.

As I understand it, AI bombers should be the easiest planes to be implemented. After all, they need limited flying maneuvers, and gun turrets works all the same. Even their performances are relatively unimportant. They all are slower than fighters, and minor differences should go unnoticed.
Conclusion. While having some more flyable fighter would not offer that much to the game, having some new bombers would add whole new campaigns.
Wellingtons and Lancasters would allow RAF’s night bomber offensive. Dornier and Grief – along with some late model He111 – would allow the last German bomber offensive against British Isles.

What about the He 219 'Uhu'? A nightfighter campagne would be nice. Some He 219's were based at bases in Holland, but then a map of Holland has to be made first.

[Qpassa]

Are you planning something about 16:10 support?

[enrico]

Have you considered the possibility to make one of the ship in the game driveable by the player, it should be possible since:
a) the movement on the water surface of a man-able object, is already supported by the game engine, as seaplanes demonstrate
b) the ship can be considered by the game logic, as a seaplane and assigned standard controls to, and the eventual cannon turret considered a gunner position

the ship, at least when piloted, could perform evasive maneuvres from torpedo bombing as well as attacks to other ships not running in a straight line, ecc.

I do know nothing about game structure and about what is doable and what isn't, but regarding to the 3D model I think it can be taken a ship's 3D model already existing in the game even the simpler one.

Anyway, thank you Team Daidalos for all the effort and new stuff you are about to put in the new patch

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by enrico

Have you considered the possibility to make one of the ship in the game driveable by the player, it should be possible since:
a) the movement on the water surface of a man-able object, is already supported by the game engine, as seaplanes demonstrate
b) the ship can be considered by the game logic, as a seaplane and assigned standard controls to, and the eventual cannon turret considered a gunner position

the ship, at least when piloted, could perform evasive maneuvres from torpedo bombing as well as attacks to other ships not running in a straight line, ecc.

This is a flight simulator, not a ship simulator.

[nearmiss]

This is a flight simulator, not a ship simulator.

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[RPS69]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

This is a flight simulator, not a ship simulator.

Sure it is, but it happens also to be the best air war simulator there is, with a good deal of ground and sea objects availability.

Giving some coordination to ground objects is somewhat difficult, but being capable of giving some pre programmed behavior to a fleet, like take evasive maneuvers or something like that, will really change the challenge of taking naval targets, and make much more interesting flying over sea battles on the sim.

I agree that piloting the ship is a bit more than reasonable right now. But the posibility to override the set WP on the .mis file with some kind of order to a fleet or a single ship, will really change the game a lot.

Those who like SEOW system will really apreciate the impact of such a possibility. They allready have poeple that enjoy playing the ground controller and else, so this is the kind of add that increases imersion. Nothing else.

Do you ever tried to hit a sheep that is taking evasive maneuvers? It is just possible to do it by arranging timing, but they are not true evasive maneuvers... worst... WP allow ships to make some very close moves that are faraway from reality. Even torpedo runs considered ship maneuverabilty to fire torpedos, affecting group tactics. A single plane hitting a ship with a single torpedo speaks very bad of the ship captain.

[nearmiss]

Ship simulator ?

I don't think most understand what it would take to make ship simulator that would be required by users of an application like IL2-SOW. Just think about the penchant for detail, physics,modeling,etc. that are expected by our users.

Map areas would have to have topology for below and above water.

Getting in and out of harbors would require "Pilots", etc.

As it is the ships are mostly targets, which doesn't require anything close to what would be required for a deployable ship or fleet by users.

There are plenty of ship simulators already available, some are very sophisticated as well.

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I might enjoy a Killer Whale simulator, where I could go around and harass the water underworld in packs.

[ElAurens]

Even in Silent Hunter 4, a dedicated submarine combat sim, player controlled surface ships done to the fidelity of the US fleet boats are pretty much beyond the ability of the game engine. There is simply too much to model for a large surface combatant ship. I'd say it's on the order of 100 times more complicated than a crewed multi engine bomber in IL2/46.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Qpassa

Are you planning something about 16:10 support?

Yea it would be very needed adition.

16:10 and better FOV support is very needed.


Comon it is manageable - some moders make it but i think people need it in original IL2.