SOW - with new DRM model by UBI ?

[4H_V-man]

I was a beta-tester for Rise of Flight. To this date I have not bought it mainly because of the requirement to have a constant internet connection to use it. I'm looking forward to SOW (mainly after it moves into new theaters), but if it has this same requirement, it will be a show-stopper for me.

I agree that developers are entitled to make it as difficult as possible for software pirates, but there are other ways to insure this that are less intrusive or problematic than many of the solutions being used now. I hope 1C can find a compromise that will satisfy them as well as the largest number of customers as well.

[HKLE]

Originally Posted by 4H_V-man

I was a beta-tester for Rise of Flight. To this date I have not bought it mainly because of the requirement to have a constant internet connection to use it. I'm looking forward to SOW (mainly after it moves into new theaters), but if it has this same requirement, it will be a show-stopper for me.

I agree that developers are entitled to make it as difficult as possible for software pirates, but there are other ways to insure this that are less intrusive or problematic than many of the solutions being used now. I hope 1C can find a compromise that will satisfy them as well as the largest number of customers as well.

well. Would be a nogo for me too. I already cancelled SH5 preorder for the same reason.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

You folks that didn't buy Rise of Flight because of the online requirement might be interested in this:

http://riseofflight.com/Blogs/post/2...RANTED!!!.aspx

They're dropping online connection for offline play. Worth reading the whole article.

So spread the word to all of your friends that balked at the login requirement and didn't purchase RoF. Now, there is no excuse not to give it a try!

[Red Dragon-DK]

Originally Posted by HKLE

well. Would be a nogo for me too. I already cancelled SH5 preorder for the same reason.

Did the same thing. Not gona bye a single game with DRM in.

[virre89]

Originally Posted by HKLE

well. Would be a nogo for me too. I already cancelled SH5 preorder for the same reason.

What a bunch of sissys , so IF BoB would require an internet connection you'd actually skip it? I know Oleg already confirmed they won't go down this road more or less, however some people are just so pecky it's both funny, ridiculous and retarded at the same time. But fine if you wanna miss out on ROF and SH5 , it's your loss no one else, and frankly i would've liked BOB to have a constant Internet connection requirement as well just as a principle.

If a DRM stops you after years of waiting i feel sorry for you and how you value the products.

[csThor]

To quote myself ...

The day when you have to subject to a monthly subscription even for playing offline games will be the day when you know why people object to such bullcr@p, mazex. This is only the beginning of a development that gives publisher executives wet dreams - DLCs at every turn, monthly subscriptions even for offline content ... I for sure won't act as cow for the publishers to milk for money at every corner.

This is why such ridiculous schemes are being introduced. The publishers want to push users into accepting DLCs at every corner and ultimately pay to play even for offline games. Have fun with micro-payments for every little thing if you're so keen on such a system.

[Sarcasm on] Want a quick flight in Storm of War - North Africa QMB? No problem, just add your credit card details for monthly subscription. Only 9,99 €. What? You don't have the new Macchi MC.202 Series III, yet? Go to our shop and purchase it. Just 14,99 €.[/Sarcasm off]

[Igo kyu]

Apparently, it's a bust.

http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/0...ked-In-One-Day

I still don't know whether SoW will be on UbiSoft.

[Blackdog_kt]

The comments on that slashdot page are hilarious

Engineering hours building unbreakable DRM: $1.6M
Marketing devoted to managing customer hostility to new DRM: $800K
Lost sales due to customers boycotting your product: $2M
Having some wiseass kid from Sweden break your DRM on the first day: Priceless
Discovering you just spent a ton of money to make the pirated version more attractive: Doubly Priceless.

The thing is, the latest stream of DRM implementations have a very ironic effect. They make the purchase tied to and dependant upon the release of a crack, ie some people buy the games thanks to the pirates. How is that so?

Well, i have frequent ISP problems. I will never buy something that doesn't work offline for single player. However, if SH5 is cracked i can buy it and install the crack on top of it and i'm good to go.

On one hand you could say the bean-counters will get the wrong message because all they look at is the amount of sales. What i would consider a good middle ground solution however, would be to buy the game, crack it and e-mail them telling them that the cracked version works better and we would prefer to buy that one if we had a choice.

I don't think DRM will survive in the long run. It's already being phased out of the music industry (where it was first introduced) and the first signs of weakness have appeared in the gaming industry as well. Look at EA. After the debacle with Spore (one of the most pirated games ever), their latest titles shipped with little to no DRM at all. For example, Dragon Age:Origins had a one-time online activation if you bought a digital download copy, while the boxed editions had a simple disc check. Look at other high profile examples as well, Fallout 3 had no protection whatsoever and it sold like mad.

In the day and age that we live in and having years of previous experience, it's naive of company executives to think they will be able to contain,railroad and manage the habbits of the PC gamer for their own needs. So, the only viable alternative for them is a very simple course of action that's been the cornerstone axiom of the market business since the ancient times: If you want to make good sales you need a good product, respect your potential customers and don't p*ss them off.

Or they can just keep chasing their DRM chimera until they go bankrupt.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by virre89

What a bunch of sissys , so IF BoB would require an internet connection you'd actually skip it? I know Oleg already confirmed they won't go down this road more or less, however some people are just so pecky it's both funny, ridiculous and retarded at the same time. But fine if you wanna miss out on ROF and SH5 , it's your loss no one else, and frankly i would've liked BOB to have a constant Internet connection requirement as well just as a principle.

If a DRM stops you after years of waiting i feel sorry for you and how you value the products.

The World doesn't rotate around you, you do know that?

Jokes aside, I don't want to reply in aggressive manner, like your post sounds - instead I will say this: not all people have internet connection, especially the crowd that plays SH5. There are two different roads publishers can take:

1/ Intrusive, draconian DRM style, which will only make them loose sales because people do not like to be forced to do certain things. And, like any car can be stolen, so can any software protection be cracked.

2/ More open to the community and buyers, by offering quality products and add ons to those that have the original copy. This is just the tip of the iceberg, there are many ways in which they can profit much more than the obvious message they are giving to the buyers now, which is: 'we do not care'.

[HKLE]

Originally Posted by virre89

What a bunch of sissys , so IF BoB would require an internet connection you'd actually skip it? I know Oleg already confirmed they won't go down this road more or less, however some people are just so pecky it's both funny, ridiculous and retarded at the same time. But fine if you wanna miss out on ROF and SH5 , it's your loss no one else, and frankly i would've liked BOB to have a constant Internet connection requirement as well just as a principle.

If a DRM stops you after years of waiting i feel sorry for you and how you value the products.

Hi

I was absent for some time and am surprised to find so many comments.

Just to answer this comment:
The point is not to be online or not - the point is, if you like being thrown out in the middle of a dogfight because of no internet connection or a connection broken down. This - in my opinion - is a killer for my motivation even to BUY the game. Single player status is offline by definition - even if UBI wants to change that.

This problem happens much more likely with games such as SH5, where missions tend to last several hours. So - this game may not be affected so much - still I do not want such a DRM applied to it - and as said above - I would not buy it.

Additionally - customers get confused by these online options. There currently is a discussion going on (at subsim), where people lost save games because of DRM forcing them to store it online. UBI meanwhile gave them the possibility to store locally as well, but synchronizing with server saves seems to be tricky sometimes.

You like cloud computing in this way - go ahead. I shall not follow. And I do not think, that I am pecky because of this opinion, or retarded or ....