Single black dragon - how far can you get?

[TemjinGold]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

rickah88, do you ever stop?

Metathron:
Well, I never even had any hero cast armageddon on me with a single BD or a BD stack. This was the basis of my assumtion. If I am in error, someone should correct me. Still, the BD's are immune to spells, so logically, casting armageddon should not harm them, as it's a spell.

Actually I think that's because you never outnumbered your enemy leadership-wise...

[Metathron]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I think the biggest challange of them all is to get this game released on DVD-ROM in the United States. That would be impressive!

I thought that your post in the review thread was in place and not spamming/trolling like it was rather unjustly called. But this...I'm seriously thinking of putting you on my ignore list and then you can spam every thread to your heart's content as your posts will be invisible to me.

If anyone is wondering how to do that:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/profile.php?do=ignorelist

I hope you reconsider, though, and stop this because all you're doing is grating the members' nerves. I'm sure you have something of value to say, or something that's pertinent to the topic at hand at the least.

[impy]

arena of death completed. boy, was it tough, i went through some cigarettes
First fight against great many hayterants was everything but easy. if you come close, they do critical attack. If you leave them, they lay eggs. I hid dragon behind traps, kept casting fear, few demon portals + death star.
Second fight was ok. Since Harrum only casts divine armor, i turned brontors into sheep, avoided tyrexes, and mystic egg did the job.
It now leaves gremlion, since i do not think k'tahu can be defeated.
Pretty charming still, if everything but last two bosses can be beaten with single creature
That brings the question - would it be teoretically possible to defeat k'tahu with red dragon instead, so you can heal him?

[Hento]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Alchemy IS a waste if you use neatness lvl 3. There is no point in losing so many runes to learn alchemy when by breaking the items you buy for runes and crystals you will get all the extra runes/crystals you need.

I don't know how you play this game but I specifically remember not being able to upgrade spells for a long periods of time because I didn't invest in alchemy.

[travelingoz]

Hento. i think because we mostly play no losses or very few losses, we generally have lots of money to spare. So by investing in Neatness AND buying every available Item, then destroying the ones we dont need, we have more than enough crystals to upgrade the spells we use.

[DGDobrev]

travelingoz is completely right. Hento, please check the lvl 60 thread and see the screens:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...07&postcount=1

You will notice I got 1048 crystals which is pretty much enough to build up every spell in the game to lvl 3 without investing in alchemy at all. Now imagine you picked alchemy along with that. It reduces the number of crystals you need to level up a spell by 50%. how many crystals would you have left in your inventory? What would you do with them?

This is why I talked about efficiency. KBAP likes efficiency much more than KBTL.

[impy]

It seems that this black dragon thread turned into discussion about alchemy vs. neatness.
I do not recommend picking alchemy at all, regardless of the character. Unless you play the game for the very first time and want to see what spells do. honestly, you only need to max out maybe 1/4 of all spells in the game. I personally find great majority spells in order magic mediocre and of limited use. Some suggest going for neatness level 3, but personally only go for level 1. Buy all artifacts 1-3, keep those 5-10 which may eventually be used/upgraded and destroy the rest. I never really felt in great need of crystal, besides when short, you can always prioritize which spells to upgrade first. Example: Calm rage is a great spell, but do you need it to be level 3 untill very late in game? no.

By the way, i managed to defeat gremlion with single black dragon, see screenshots
It turned out to be mathematical exercise.
1) Gremlion summons up to 5 towers, i had to make sure that all of them are evil, in order not to get attacked due to imunnity. He actually summoned 1 friendly gremlin which i had to kill with 2 x death star at the great mana cost.
2) Gremlin attack was 85, so i wanted to have 145 on dragon in order to receive 1/3 damage only. My defence 130 + wanderer scroll (10) + defence command ( = 148 achieved that goal.
3) dragon has 95% magic resistance, so gremlion damage was 46-54/round.
4) therefore my time to kill him was 1000 (dragon hit points) / cca 50 = 20 gremlion magic attacks
5) btw it says in info thread that when gremlion wants to place a tower and cannot due to all hexes being taken, he does nothing. I hope i got it right. But it is not true. once he had all 5 towers placed he kept casting magic attack every single turn.
6) going back to 4) I therefore had cca 25 rounds (+5 rounds for placing towers) to kill gremlion = my 25 + 6 initial double castings = 31 castings.
7) gremlion hitpoints 154000 / 31 castings = cca 5000 damage per casting to him.
obvious choice therefore was fire arrow costing 31 x 5 mana = 155 mana overall + having cca 80 mana in reserve for higher damaging spells .
9) question was how to get fire arrow to do 5000 damage.
10) I had fiery bow - +50% to fire arrow spell + 65 intellect = 4615 damage and it turned out to be enough.

[DGDobrev]

Well done

The info thread is correct (I had him skip a turn), however, chances of doing that are very low, like from 1/30 upwards for each round (so it's not guaranteed that he'll skip a turn even once in 30 rounds), because the chances of him casting his mass attack when there's nothing he can hit or there's nowhere to place a tower are so high.

[Zechnophobe]

Doesn't he only place three towers? Am I just remembering only a run through on Hard, and he does 5 on impossible? I am completely not recalling him ever using 5.

[DGDobrev]

It's 5 for all difficulties. Maybe you were either destroying them too fast or he was more interested in using his mass attack than summon towers?