Anyone with problems with ATI drivers read this.

[13th Hsqn Protos]

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Well good luck with that Flank ..... I am 42 and have better things to do with my time than to constantly tweak defective drivers for a game that is optimized for another card maker. Oleg has a longstanding relationship with NV .... whether we like it or not. NV cards run his games BETTER - and that couldn't be more evident with the latest drivers ATI is pumping out. That is not opinion...... but fact.

At some point you have to weigh whats best for you and the games you play.

There was a time when hardware was roughly equal in IL2.

That is no longer the case ..... regardless of what you "think" .... benchmarks don't lie ..... and your not that much more tech savvy then the rest of us regardless of what you try to 'insinuate'

Indeed there might 'gasp' be some people posting in this thread who own a computer business and consult/build/troubleshoot/optimize hardware/software for a living

Once you get to my age, tinkering loses its appeal. I just want things to WORK now.

[Flanker35M]

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I have not stated being any tech savvier than anyone else, far from that. What I know is based on my experiences with computers. And not that far from your age either, so referring me as a teen is an insult actually

For me slight tinkering is not a bad thing, that way I learn more how things work. Blaming ATI having worse drivers than nVidia is utter BS in my opinion. There are no perfect drivers. nVidia pours out drivers now and then, but it does not mean quality. Neither does ATI's 1 per month. Too many configurations and systems to make everything click, so I find it worthless to debate of 2 brands making stuff making us able to play..

Benchmarks are crap. Take a benchmark, construct a set of drivers just for it and then show off the FPS. Hell yeah, so far from truth that anything can be. Joe Average is blinded by the tech mumbojumbo, flashy fps and buys the card and is soo disappointed when the marketing hype is going down the drain..I believe when I see with my own eyes.

So I would end this by saying that if feedback to ATI makes a difference, then this tinkering etc. has not been in vain. Pointless to bring up the fanboi mentality, both brands offer more than enough power for our needs. Just a matter of preference which one you use.

[genbrien]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

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NV cards run his games BETTER - and that couldn't be more evident with the latest drivers ATI is pumping out. That is not opinion...... but fact.

I loled

We dont even know when the game will be finish, yet you're already saying that NV will be better....

If you look at game these days, both ATI and NV are quite the same, except if the develeoper take HAVOK or PHYSX.....

I really dont think we'll see a diffenrence in quality if the game is made in DX mode....

We got problem with ATi because of the OPENGL driver....

Anyway, wait and see

[=PF=Coastie]

Hey Proto, been a long time man. I see you haven't changed!

What ATI card did you have before you changed? Did you upgrade your entire PC? Are all things exactly equal here?

Because your claims are complete BS man. If you had a card on the same level as your GTX275, it would have been an ATI 5870 or maybe a 4890. Otherwise, you are not comparing apples to apples here.

Guys with 5870's are getting very close to same fps at the 280's are IF all things are equal. Which they likely are not.

ATI's AA settings are way different than Nvidias as well as the quality. To get two games set up exactly alike would be tough because the AA settings alone just do not match up.

So, lets just get off the fanboy wagon here(I am one, I know it) and get back to the topic.

[13th Hsqn Protos]

LOL

EXACTLY the same system and if you actually read the post you would see what the hardware was.

It was a 4850X2 2gigabyte card water-cooled and overclock to 4890+ clocks. 3D vantage scores are within a couple of hundred points of each other with the 275GTX


The lack of knowledge in here is stunning.... and for the record its my first NV card in almost 10 years..... was straight ATI since day one in this game.

Make it personal ......... but as the young pups say the facts are raping your faces

The only fanboy wagon, is the one you fellas are riding, owned both and benchmarked both which is more than anyone else in this thread can say. Orb results available if necessary.

But hey I got love ..... just make sure to post those new ATI drivers that will fix text corruption, close the memory leak in 9.x & 10.x drivers AND will give EQUAL frames for same IQ ...... LoooooooooooooooooooooL

Loyalty to people is good. Loyalty to companies is for idiots.

[genbrien]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

The lack of knowledge in here is stunning.... and for the record its my first NV card in almost 10 years..... was straight ATI since day one in this game.

Make it personal ......... but as the young pups say the facts are raping your faces

The only fanboy wagon, is the one you fellas are riding, owned both and benchmarked both which is more than anyone else in this thread can say. Orb results available if necessary.

Loyalty to people is good. Loyalty to companies is for idiots.

ouch, I laughed so hard I think I just broke one of my ribs
I dont know where you get your ''facts'', but in 90% of games ATI is over NV in benchmark. And dont take Vantage as a reference, it's working with PHYSX.

My 4870 were my 1st ATI card ever, always was with NV before. There is some things I like more with NV than ATI, and vice versa.

And for someone over 40, you act very childish and seems to be a very stuborn person

I'm waiting for FERMI to be released to see what my next purchase will be, but I'll certanliy not made my choice because a compagny screwed up a game 10yo