Friday 2010-02-05 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

[Chaos]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Blown away by the knowledge and enthusiasm of some of the people on this forum.

Yes, really nice except... this is a flightsimulator, not a fashion show or a museum showpiece. Although i appreciate the attention to detail I hope this doesn't detract from other, imo more pressing matters, like AI, flightmodelling and systems modelling. Too much focus is on the graphics' side of things if you ask me. We have yet to see anything from the simulation part of this game...

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Yes, really nice except... this is a flightsimulator, not a fashion show or a museum showpiece. Although i appreciate the attention to detail I hope this doesn't detract from other, imo more pressing matters, like AI, flightmodelling and systems modelling. Too much focus is on the graphics' side of things if you ask me. We have yet to see anything from the simulation part of this game...

For the 1000000 time, the graphic designers on the team are NOT building th code and neither have the coding guys chained to their monitors to admire what they have done instead of creating the best AI and whatever else code related. Please, get that in your head!

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Zorin

For the 1000000 time, the graphic designers on the team are NOT building th code and neither have the coding guys chained to their monitors to admire what they have done instead of creating the best AI and whatever else code related. Please, get that in your head!

Exept, the game wont be released before the nitpicking is done (U do know who Oleg is, right?), and that could take eons by the looks of things right now.

Think about it.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Baron

Exept, the game wont be released before the nitpicking is done (U do know who Oleg is, right?), and that could take eons by the looks of things right now.

Think about it.

I don't think your right about this... The original release of Il2 Sturmovik, and all of the subsequent "add-ons", all had patches/fixes soon after their release (and after)...I have also read posts from Oleg where he apologized for not including features and aeroplanes from "up-dates" because their was "no time"...

I'm just not sure the data supports your statement...

[nearmiss]

Whenever you post something like the screenshots for this thread it is like saying, "What do you think"?

Guaranteed...there will be plenty of people that will tell you what they think.

[fireflyerz]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Whenever you post something like the screenshots for this thread it is like saying, "What do you think"?

Guaranteed...there will be plenty of people that will tell you what they think.

Thats the whole point of all this forum and these updates isn't it ?...... to gain feedback to get an idea of what the public on mass is going to make of the sim and to iron out as many inaccuracies as possible before release , we , the fanbase , are without question the best team for the job and we are free as well.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

Thats the whole point of all this forum and these updates isn't it ?...... to gain feedback to get an idea of what the public on mass is going to make of the sim and to iron out as many inaccuracies as possible before release , we , the fanbase , are without question the best team for the job and we are free as well.

I'm cool with it, afterall Oleg did ask for critque.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by proton45

I don't think your right about this... The original release of Il2 Sturmovik, and all of the subsequent "add-ons", all had patches/fixes soon after their release (and after)...I have also read posts from Oleg where he apologized for not including features and aeroplanes from "up-dates" because their was "no time"...

I'm just not sure the data supports your statement...

I think they are setting the bar way higher than they did with IL2.


Hopefully he knows when enough is enough and im sure he does.

[Chaos]

Originally Posted by Zorin

For the 1000000 time, the graphic designers on the team are NOT building th code and neither have the coding guys chained to their monitors to admire what they have done instead of creating the best AI and whatever else code related.

No need to state the obvious. While you're debating whether that shoulder patch is the right color or there should really be 8807 rivets instead of 8806, I sit and wonder why they didn't spend more time on aircraft performance because my Spit climbs at 500fpm/sealevel at maximum power.

I'm exagerating of course... but you guys are getting stuck in the details. You're losing sight of the big picture. You can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm sure Oleg and team are doing their best. They're one of the few that still believe in this genre. I support them 100% and I'll be one of the first to buy their sim. I just hope they're not getting bogged down in details that I, personally, believe are not relevant. Not for a flight simulation game anyways...

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Chaos

No need to state the obvious. While you're debating whether that shoulder patch is the right color or there should really be 8807 rivets instead of 8806, I sit and wonder why they didn't spend more time on aircraft performance because my Spit climbs at 500fpm/sealevel at maximum power.

I'm exagerating of course... but you guys are getting stuck in the details. You're losing sight of the big picture. You can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm sure Oleg and team are doing their best. They're one of the few that still believe in this genre. I support them 100% and I'll be one of the first to buy their sim. I just hope they're not getting bogged down in details that I, personally, believe are not relevant. Not for a flight simulation game anyways...

All Zorin wanted to say imho is that the work made (and stillbe done) by programmers isn't something to be shown here in forums. While they're working for BoB Oleg only can show us things made by the other team fraction: the designers.

All of them are working hard. While the results of the designers can be displayed here the work done by programmers has to wait until release to be tested.

The fact that we only can see results done by designers and artists doesn't suggest that programmers are sleeping
I think "your" Spitfire will please you. It not only will have the right amount of rivets, it even will climb faster than "my" Emil, I [strike]fear[/strike] guess

Excuse my bad english