"Wings" Of Prey (PC). Watchout Oleg!

[Desode]

I agree on the Acceleration/climb aerodynamics but with the sensitivity changed in WOP the stalls and spins are the exact same speeds on every plane. We should all mention the Acceleration/climb aerodynamics on the WOP forums. I know somethings where changed on the FM's in console version.
I also agree Il2 is way better in every way, so don't think I'm in any way trying to say WOP is better.

I just can't stress enough how much the sensetivity settings in WOP change the FM as far as turns and stalls. It makes such a difference that if the sensetivity is turned down, just about none of the planes will stall or spin. It completly changes the FM in that aspect.

DESODE

[diveplane]

Originally Posted by Desode

I agree on the Acceleration/climb aerodynamics but with the sensitivity changed in WOP the stalls and spins are the exact same speeds on every plane. We should all mention the Acceleration/climb aerodynamics on the WOP forums. I know somethings where changed on the FM's in console version.
I also agree Il2 is way better in every way, so don't think I'm in any way trying to say WOP is better.

I just can't stress enough how much the sensetivity settings in WOP change the FM as far as turns and stalls. It makes such a difference that if the sensetivity is turned down, just about none of the planes will stall or spin. It completly changes the FM in that aspect.

DESODE

wop does have the potential , once it gets the flight models in some shape it will be a winner. imo its not to bad atm ..

middle of the road. having never flew a real spitfire or bf109 or any aircraft for that matter i cant compare.
but it sure feels not to bad against il2 .

[sweln]

I believe WoP fills the gap between pure arcade game and sim. And that's all what is needed. For sim there's Il-2 and one day SoW, and for arcade game there's plenty small games or whatever Ubi has released.

I have bought WoP, I'm pretty happy with it even if I find quite some stupid errors : explosions and other FX, non-plane models, bad speed impression.
But the game is beautifull, and it will help SoW have a quality standard for release concerning those graphics.

Of what can see SoW is really much more detailed, just that the screens never use AA and other polish effects so yeah it still looks like Il-2 with more loads of detailed 3D models.

BUT what I would love to hear / read, is Oleg's own opinion about Wings of Prey! Monsieur Oleg?

[Flanker35M]

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Without going into FM/DM or effects and other stuff I must say this after testing the demo. If WoP is based on IL2 engine then PLEASE give that code to IL2. I ran the other demo for VVS flying La7 over Berlin. There is a LOT going on with artillery and flak firing, battle raging on, smoke pillars rising all over Berlin and planes plummeting down and of course lot of planes and buildings. And there is NO STUTTER whatsoever! The game runs smooth. Try same in IL2 and you look at a slide show at best even with most powerful rigs

Another thing is that WoP demo worked without ANY tweaking in graphics or similar on ATI 5870HD card. If it uses OpenGL as IL2 (have not checked so deep yet), then please add the same support from WoP to IL-2 I dare to say if IL2 engine got the improvements shown in WoP, then SoW would have a VERY strong competitor as IL2 has a ton more stuff already in it what SoW will not have at release..and most importantly runs on lesser hardware as well. Just my 2 cents..

[zakkandrachoff]

I think oleg will not have competition of any Cain, except the Wings Of prey, that will keep the noobs flight simulator users.

Thunder Works and Fighters Ops is like dead projects, anyway, this are not competition for Storm Of War. Maybe if appears some "combat flight simulator X" or "Rise Of Flight 2", anyway, this are not comparison whit SOW.

Oleg has been doing a great job postings the advances "in work" to eliminate errors in a forum. Is very intelligent. The Best Part for oleg games is that every year we will buy a new scenery for SOW series: continuous money ingress.

Storm Of war will be the compared to ArmA2 in FPS. Noobs will play wings of Prey forever, in this case, Call of Duty MW

maybe I will buy WOP, but only for keep my nerves calm for a wail in the eternal wait for SOW

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Storm of War, when released, won't face any competition, probably. Why? Because the only World-War 2 simulator that was dominating so far is from the same developers. The rest doesn't stand a chance.

Jet Thunder and Fighter Ops, although promising, deal with a completely different area. I'm not very into details of Fighter Ops so I can't compare to anything, but about Jet Thunder, it won't even compete with DCS. Why? Because it depicts aerial warfare in a specific conflict and time, while DCS works on fictional but possible scenarios in the Caucasus area.

So, we'll probably have:

- Storm of War lonely as top World War II flight-simulation, in terms of realism.

- Rise of Flight alone in nº1 position for fans of the Great War.

- DCS for the hardcore fans of modern airwarfare; with some competition with Jet Thunder, but these are more likely to co-exist in our HDs, instead of competing.

Enough options for every simmers. And for those who, as said by a member at Eagle Dynamics, don't like to "kill anything but time", there will still exist Microboring Flight Simulator X

As the noseart on the P-47 says, "NO GUNS, NO GLORY". Oh wait, it's "GUTS". But the first version shall prevail

PS: I don't know what Fighter Ops will try to replicate, so I don't know in what level we can put it. Because of it, it was left out of the comparsion.

[Desode]

Side by side comparison video between il2 FM and WOP FM on the Bf109 G6.

I thought some of you might find it intersting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuXvo4DSmg

Desode

[Lucas_From_Hell]

It's funny.

People flamed Rise of Flight because it didn't have some features at the start, but they're supporting Wings of Prey even considering the developers forgot to implement major features that interfere directly with the aircraft's behaviour?!

And, curiously, while the fact of it lacking some features in the very beginning was an excuse not to buy Rise of Flight, the same thing is used as an excuse to put faith on Wings of Prey. In the end some sound like "No, but it's still in development, buy it, they can fix it! Please, believe me!!"

I'll stick with good and old IL-2, that was already developed and flies and looks closer to reality than Wings of Prey

[Desode]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

It's funny.

People flamed Rise of Flight because it didn't have some features at the start, but they're supporting Wings of Prey even considering the developers forgot to implement major features that interfere directly with the aircraft's behaviour?!

And, curiously, while the fact of it lacking some features in the very beginning was an excuse not to buy Rise of Flight, the same thing is used as an excuse to put faith on Wings of Prey. In the end some sound like "No, but it's still in development, buy it, they can fix it! Please, believe me!!"

I'll stick with good and old IL-2, that was already developed and flies and looks closer to reality than Wings of Prey

LOL yeah I agree with your comments on the ROF thing !
Sad to hear you don't like Wop though.
I say buy the game , Support any form of Sim that comes to our Dieing Market. We have to few of them to bitch about.
I still play il2 and that will never change. I have 4hrs in already today flying some Il2 1946 missions.
At 1pm its ROF time till 4pm and then WOP from 5pm to 9pm !
Then DCS Black Shark at 9pm till 1 am !! LOL
Just bought OFF today so when it gets here I will add it into the list.

You just got to love Saturdays ! and like I said you can never have enough Great flight combat sims to enjoy.

Forever supporting any Flight Combat Sim I can afford, DESODE

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I tried to download the demo, but the only thing the installer did was to slow down my computer. Didn't even open! I'm trying again today to see if it works, but it's really weird.

I'm just saying it based on the oppinions from supporters I've seen here. I dislike the graphics already, and it seems that flight models need some fine tuning.

By the way, as you mentioned "our dieing market", check this out:

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/feature...of-2009-Voting

We see a flight simulator leading the poll of "Best PC Game of 2009", beating RPGs, shooters and everything else.

So, how dieing do you think our market is?