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Old 12-22-2009, 12:59 PM
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but u have to rember that shackless have leadership limit, big stacks on impossible wont get shackled
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:12 PM
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Yup, but as far as I remember from my warrior on impossible, there werent many stacks high enough to resist magic shackles, and always you can kill some of them before they have a chance of moving.

I still have some ideas which I want to test in this strategy, like for instance can you summon angelic guards on a phantomed Royal Griffin or summon demons with a phantomed Demonoligist, will definetely post them later.

One more question, will bump the post if nobody will reply in the next ~12 hours. So the experience gain is based on the enemy deaths, rage consumed, and the ability itself, but what I can see is that the egg ability gives a decent amount of exp - does anyone know if the exp gain of that ability is based on the number of enemy units/number of turns taken ? or any ideas how to check it ?

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Old 12-23-2009, 02:02 AM
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I think my problem is that you very boldly stated:

"With this strategy you CAN TAKE EVERYTHING "

and then afterward start claiming that, it doesn't actually work on everything, and that you have to use different strategies against different troops. There really is no one strategy that always works, and is part of what makes using a variety of them so satisfying!
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:59 PM
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Zech, because in my opinion you can take everything, sure I cannot vouch for every monster combination possible, but what I can tell - you can take every hero/monster in game if you are plaing for a timed score, so for instance you are lvl 20 and the enemy hero is lvl 30 = you can take him without looses, just a little planing ahead of the emeny action points, sure sometimes it its complicated, like for instance ememy units consist of trolls regenerating each turm, but a simple knowing where they will move/wont move and placings traps/slow can do miracles - although it will take like 500 turns (my longest fight at lvl 12 took 446 turns, and my dragon got almost 2 levels from it around 100 of pure battle, rest for ressurection) but it is possible, just take a break and think for a while. But if you are like lvl 20, and want to kill enemies in nameless island (they are around lvl 40+ there)- this is more of less impossible, because you will be outnumbered, but still if like the enemy army will consist of melee units only - you can kite them as much if you want, if you have to, just enclose your archers with stone wall and leave a quick unit (like a red dragon) to kite them around the battlefirld (you have to know the mechanism/script of the game, then you can abuse it)

So for instance my army consist of:

1) 1 priest, 1 bowman, 1 hunter (elven archer), 1x paladin + 1 RED DRAGON (and I'm starting with full rage, and the enemy army has no archers

2) cluster all the units together and enclose them with Stone Wall, leaving the RED DRAGON out of the enclosing area.

3) the enemy wont attack the Stone wall, and will try to get closer to your red dragon - then kite the enemy/while atacking with the archers - victory.

In the end it all closes in to mathematics, so even an army of 1 bowmen 1 red dragon can take any army of melee monsters, provided that you can kite them.

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Old 01-07-2010, 10:21 PM
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(my longest fight at lvl 12 took 446 turns...)
Oh man, how can i resist using such an awesome tactic? I think I'll just stick with Target + Timeback.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:43 PM
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Oh man, how can i resist using such an awesome tactic? I think I'll just stick with Target + Timeback.
Well, at least he's getting his money's worth...

Amidamaru: Go beat the Marquis of Krause with that strategy. Go ahead and try. There's plenty of fights where you can't kite and that's one of them. The Marquis has FOUR stacks that can reach any spot on the battlefield when they are standing in the middle.
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:02 AM
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How long do 446 turns take in real time? The longest I have ever done was like 50-ish turns back in KB:TL fighting Karador and it takes like forever. Ok not exactly forever but still almost an hour.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:11 AM
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I cannot imagine how could i kill _every_ enemy on one island if i go in order.
Is there a pre requisit that is a "must have" for impossible max time play?

Debir can be done easily withough going to another island first with alwys provided units, but if I go to Scarlet/Bolo/Rusty Anchor and and want to kill everyone in one run i would be probably in great trouble. Especialy restocking is probably not possible so either sacrifice is a must or a lots of unit type change must happen.

In my last game i have sailed around first (i play inpossible too but i do not care with time - so far) i have found 2 red dragons on the first islands (rusty anchor probably) and the Q emerald, it became a pretty easy "impossible" start
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:23 AM
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well if u see, you have to comeback to most of islands because of quests, so only a few are one run .. and u can leave those for late game.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:28 AM
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This is certainly living up to it's reputation for me

I can't get the Verona map on Bola as my army is weak. I have level 3 order magic and can cast an ancient phoenix and also a lvl1 phantom. My Mage is lvl 12 3/3/11 stats and any army is lethal basically lol

EDIT

Did it! 150 odd R Snakes and 4 packs of 75 Ancient Bears were the problem, but no more. I had over 100k of gold so bought the +20mana painting and R Snakes. Killed the zombie hero on Scarlet in the cave and got a mythrill shield! +8 defense and I was lvl 12 and he was lvl 20 then the fight was still very difficult but with my Magic Eggs and Ancient Phoenix I managed the crowd of Bears and chipped away at them with phantom on the snakes.

Happy Days

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