RAF Hurricane Pic Battle of France May 1940. Important for SoW Devs?

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

What dates it to the Battle of France?

Aside from anything else, I think the chaps uniform is German, which since the Hurricane was not (I think, informed contradiction would be interesting) used on Rodeos and Circuses, pretty much nails it to the BoF (I always think of Norway as cold, but I suppose that's a possibility).

[Crumpp]

I think the chaps uniform is German,

Maybe, the arrow draw to point out the glass obscures any cap emblem. Besides that, work coveralls and a service cap are common items.

I can't tell what his uniform is from that picture. At least not a thing more than a guess which is not the answer I was looking to get.

There should be something definitive.

On August 19th, 1942, the RAF was called upon to provide air support to the most important offensive of the year, Operation Jubilee, the Allied raid on Dieppe. Fighter Command provided 48 Spitfire squadrons (including several RCAF squadrons: Nos 401, 402, 403, 411, 412 and 416), eight Hurricane squadrons, and three Hawker Typhoon squadrons.

http://www.junobeach.org/e/4/can-tac-air-fig-e.htm

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I wouldn't be so sure... At late 1942, I think most (or all) frontline Hurricanes were already Mark II standard. Just some wild guessing, however...

[Crumpp]

Just some wild guessing, however...

All I am asking for is something besides a guess.

IIRC, Hurricane Mk IIa retained the original Mk I wing armament.

28-Jun-41. Hawker Hurricane AP516 UZ-X. P/O J. Zulikowski.
Shot down by Bf109 over France during Circus 26.

http://www.polishsquadronsremembered...06_losses.html

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

IIRC, Hurricane Mk IIa retained the original Mk I wing armament.

Yes, but the propeller had metal blades, and I think the Mk.IIa later got the slightly longer spinner.

[Crumpp]

the propeller had metal blades

Right, AFAIK all the production Hurricanes 3 bladed propellers used in service were metal.

Now for my original question...

Without taking a guess, what defines this picture as occurring during the Battle of France?

Hurricanes were definitely shot down over France after the Battle of Britain.

[SlipBall]

It seem's possible that this aircraft was in use by the axis prior to its demise. This of course is based on the lack of raf markings...just saying

[SlipBall]

(quote)
This picture of an RAF Hurricane Mk 1 shot down in the Battle of France ( probably May 1940)



I was just wondering how you reached this conclusion (battle of France), did the first photo also have writing on it's back, if so, could you post an img of it, thanks

[MB_Avro_UK]

First photo had nothing on the back. But there are similarities with the second photo.

As regards the first photo, the lack of RAF markings on the fuselage,fin and wings make it unlikely that it flew from England in 1941/2. And the countryside is very much French.

I'm sure that there is a lot that happened during the Battle of France that is not in the Text Books. And this applies to perhaps all historical periods. That is why photos such as these are so interesting.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

(I always think of Norway as cold, but I suppose that's a possibility).

Norway is not a possibility unless this Hurricane was taking off from an aircraft carrier or MAC-ship, both very unlikely. I don't think any Hurricane ever flew over Norway during WWII. I'm allmost 100% certain that a Hurricane has never been shot down here, anyway.
But the scenery could have been in Norway.

Skarphol