A few more questions for the experts

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

1. What were the standards for painting the insides of ship vents? Most civilians paint them red. How were they painted on German and British warships?

There are various coulor variations for different kinds of ships, but german warships obviously used RAL 7001 for the inside of vents.

Colour specifications of the Kriegsmarine:
http://www.die-graue-flotte.de/magic...php?f=64&t=592

Colours of the Kriegsmarine:
http://www.die-graue-flotte.de/magic....php?f=64&t=50

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

Could you provide us with a little more information regarding the italian torpedo?

Do you mean the 17.7" (45 cm) F200/450 x 5.46 type torpedo (german designation: F5W) ?

List of italian torpedos:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTIT_WWII.htm

[luthier]

Originally Posted by Jg2001_Rasputin

Could you provide us with a little more information regarding the italian torpedo?

Do you mean the 17.7" (45 cm) F200/450 x 5.46 type torpedo (german designation: F5W) ?

List of italian torpedos:
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTIT_WWII.htm

That's right, that's the torpedo.

We have a lot of B&W photos of it, where it mostly looks like the body was left unpainted bare metal, and the head was either also bare metal, or painted various colors. Definitely looks like more than one color on different photos, so we're kind of confused. Were there different sub-variants that were painted differently, or simply no standard at all?

[Edit] And yes, this is for the BR-20.

Also, thanks everyone for the other answers, but keep it coming!

[HenFre]

Originally Posted by luthier

That's right, that's the torpedo.

We have a lot of B&W photos of it, where it mostly looks like the body was left unpainted bare metal, and the head was either also bare metal, or painted various colors. Definitely looks like more than one color on different photos, so we're kind of confused. Were there different sub-variants that were painted differently, or simply no standard at all?

[Edit] And yes, this is for the BR-20.

Also, thanks everyone for the other answers, but keep it coming!

Hmm.. This actually concerns me alot to hear. Especially that last part about the torpedo being for the BR.20
I did not know a lot about the BR.20, but since your request have done a study of it on various sites on the internet. On every site it is said, that the BR.20 was never used as a torpedo-bomber and never was concidered for this role.
Do anyone or you Luthier have another angel on this?

Here is some of the homepages I have visited:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbird.../fiatbr20.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20

[luthier]

Originally Posted by HenFre

Hmm.. This actually concerns me alot to hear. Especially that last part about the torpedo being for the BR.20
I did not know a lot about the BR.20, but since your request have done a study of it on various sites on the internet. On every site it is said, that the BR.20 was never used as a torpedo-bomber and never was concidered for this role.
Do anyone or you Luthier have another angel on this?

Here is some of the homepages I have visited:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbird.../fiatbr20.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_BR.20

Errm I think we had a little bit of a miscommunication here, or rather a little mess-up on my part. It is indeed not for the BR-20.

But we still need the color anyway.

Also, any info on any Italian armaments would be appreciated. What's the difference between a 100M and a 100T, etc?

[HenFre]

Great.. Crisis averted.. We can go down to DEFCON 3 again

Here is one picture, that I believe shows the head of the torpedo being coloured and the main body being metal:



(I think the strips on the head should be painted red and white)

Just found this on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cl69qp5O78

[luthier]

Originally Posted by HenFre

Here is one picture, that I believe shows the head of the torpedo being coloured and the main body being metal:



(I think the strips on the head should be painted red and white)

Thanks! We have tons of B&W photos, and I think the striped head one is a training torpedo. But we need to know what color to paint ours... I doubt we'll be lucky to find a color period photo of one,and modern ones don't look the same. I think our best bet is some sort of a period document that lists different munitions type and their colors, like we have for other nations.

[HenFre]

Originally Posted by luthier

Errm I think we had a little bit of a miscommunication here, or rather a little mess-up on my part. It is indeed not for the BR-20.

But we still need the color anyway.

Also, any info on any Italian armaments would be appreciated. What's the difference between a 100M and a 100T, etc?

Do not worry Veltro. He has allready stated above, that the torpedo is not for the BR.20

[150GCT_Veltro]

Originally Posted by HenFre

Do not worry Veltro. He has allready stated above, that the torpedo is not for the BR.20

Hops, sorry mate you are right. My apologies.

About M & T, we did send all in Moscow several years ago if i remember well. I need to check again, but we should have all info you need about M, T ecc. ecc. (explosive type). But i need to search in my books and magazines, or waiting for friends reply.

[Abraxa]

Checking few pictures of SM79s and Italian torpedos, it really seems there's no real standardization in terms of colours.
It is possible that the "head" was painted in red sometimes, but I wouldn't draw any rule, IMHO.
Here's an interesting pict of a SM79's torpedo that I found online. It's taken at the Vigna di Valle Museum.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_yBKu6IwRjCY/Sf...0/DSCF1139.JPG

Although I would not follow the pict for the red nose as a rule, the grey colour looks quite realistic to me. Should I judge from the war picts I would say that the colour was either grey (the ordinary "grigioazzurro"?), either bare metal, maybe depending upon the producer. I guess that Veltro will be able to collect all the needed information on the Italian forum.

EDIT: one more pict.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...rviero-003.jpg
The nuance of gray looks way too lucid to me, in this restored piece, although the gray tonality doesn't look so bad.