Friday 2009-11-20 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

Constant payed updates. Lets be clear.

They'd be out of business within a year if most of the updates weren't paid. That should be clear to everyone.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

From what I've got, this will work just like IL-2. If a new title is released, it's paid. If it's just a patch, it's free.

The only difference will be that we won't get any new planes of maps with the updates, but these can be made by other users and etc.

Am I right?

[robtek]

Updates are fixes also called patches -> must be free
Upgrades, also called add-ons are usually paid for.

[13th Hsqn Protos]

Originally Posted by Chivas

They'd be out of business within a year if most of the updates weren't paid. That should be clear to everyone.

We will see how well your model works out for RoF.......

[Necrobaron]

RoF updates are free. The ability to fly additional planes does cost money, although the planes themselves are in the game regardless. I think we've all been spoiled by Oleg's generosity during the IL-2 era.
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[13th Hsqn Protos]

RoF has failed.

There is a lesson there for Oleg.

but I of course will bow to your much greater wisdom .....

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

RoF has failed.

There is a lesson there for Oleg.

but I of course will bow to your much greater wisdom .....

Maybe ROF failed for you because you failed to realize that it was released as a WIP. I see ROF having a very bright future. Both ROF and SOW are being developed by fellow combat flight simmers, who have a love for the genre, without them the genre would be dead.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Maybe ROF failed for you because you failed to realize that it was released as a WIP. I see ROF having a very bright future..

RoF is a buggy piece of junk that was released to early as a product in beta stage, and the "gaming model" is completely flawed and deserves to be a flop. nowhere on their product box or webpage does it openly and clearly state it is an unfinished beta product which was prematurely released because they ran out of money, you personally might not mind that, but the rest of us surely do.

the RoF game world is empty and lifeless and dead, no ground life or activity, plane flight models are scripted and not real physics (note for ex planes without wings flying around as if nothing has happened to them, untill they "bug fixed" it by adding "no wings = dead plane and fall to ground" etc..), no real online play (lacks dogfight and coop servers), lacks offline play (non existent), etc..

the main RoF forums have long lists of complaints and unhappy people (even if RoF has bribed several forum owners to censor open discussion), sales have slumped after their initial con trick of selling an unfinished product got realized. and now they want to keep charging you for the patches to fix it ? sure, pull the other one and see if we can laugh some more !

and why are you here again advertising it in a BoB forum ? keep that junk crap out of this forum

[zapatista]

Oleg,

thanks for the new stuka pictures

Question 1: in the dynamic campaign, will we be able to take of from an airfield and then request from the local area "command center" an update on aircraft activity in our sector ? with information on approximate numbers of suspected enemy planes, and their heading and altitude ?

this would mean
- not just having limited information on the one specific mission we are flying, but getting an overview of all activity in that sector
- at very busy times this could have low information detail, just giving approximate numbers of formations and aircraft types
- at less busy times it could give more precise information, like enemy reconnaissance plane in sector X, or damaged enemy bombers returning home at low altitude in sector Z etc..

question 2: can we have some type of visual feedback on the damage status of our own aircraft ? in real life we get much more information on the damage to our aircraft because we feel the hits it takes and we feel the changes in how the plane behaves in the air when it is damged (for ex increased vibrations when we slow down, more sluggish to turn left then right etc..). sitting behind a monitor in our livingroom removes a lot of those clue's
- ? is it possible to have a "visual damage report" that either with an image or text gives us a damage status ? (something we can turn on/off to have a quick report and see our status). you can add some uncertainty to it to make it more realistic so it isnt 100% precise, for ex "right wing root multiple hits, possible structural weakening" etc..
note: this would be an option you can turn on/off in the setup, so people who prefer not to get this information can continue to fly uninformed

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by zapatista

RoF is a buggy piece of junk that was released to early as a product in beta stage, and the "gaming model" is completely flawed and deserves to be a flop. nowhere on their product box or webpage does it openly and clearly state it is an unfinished beta product which was prematurely released because they ran out of money, you personally might not mind that, but the rest of us surely do.

the RoF game world is empty and lifeless and dead, no ground life or activity, plane flight models are scripted and not real physics (note for ex planes without wings flying around as if nothing has happened to them, untill they "bug fixed" it by adding "no wings = dead plane and fall to ground" etc..), no real online play (lacks dogfight and coop servers), lacks offline play (non existent), etc..

the main RoF forums have long lists of complaints and unhappy people (even if RoF has bribed several forum owners to censor open discussion), sales have slumped after their initial con trick of selling an unfinished product got realized. and now they want to keep charging you for the patches to fix it ? sure, pull the other one and see if we can laugh some more !

and why are you here again advertising it in a BoB forum ? keep that junk crap out of this forum

Sure there are a few whiners with no vision, but most ROF simmers see the potential, and understand that the alternative was no WW1 sim at all. ROF will have a bright future and we should see substantial improvement in the next free patch.