Friday 2009-10-30 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[Kurfürst]

Why is the Bf 109E model still missing the head armor piece in the cocpit..?

Hopefully it isn't final.. there are plenty of pictures of Bf 109Es that were taken during the Battle, both with and without the back armored headrest.

Those with the headrest also show the curved top armor place (protecting the pilot from deflection attacks from above) present or missing.

One example being Bartlel's Bf 109E-1, WNr. 6296, forced down in air combat on 24 July 1940 - this one has both the armored headpiece, and curved armor piece on the top.



Obviously there was some irregularity with the fitting of these items, maybe preference of pilot, or unit commander, or delivery of these kits to units..

I am not sure if the engine allows such, but if it allows different 3D models to be loaded individually for each aircraft, it would be best if both options would be present for player choice, ie. player selects wheter he wants armor headrest present or not. Or it is set fixed for some units, based on photographic evidence. For example if player plays with III/JG 26, he has no choice and the headrest will be present.. if plays as pilot of other fighter unit, there will be no headrest. But probably simple player choice is better, simpler solution...

[JVM]

Wasn't the improved head armor only introduced in the E4 version? This one seems a E3 version to me...

[kgwanchos]

Superb stuff Oleg...... Im just so happy that it looks like we really will see this Title at some time in the future. I Dont really mind if the pilots are ugly or the stitching is wrong on the life jacket but Im sure all these details will come together..... great work...

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by kgwanchos

Superb stuff Oleg...... Im just so happy that it looks like we really will see this Title at some time in the future. I Dont really mind if the pilots are ugly or the stitching is wrong on the life jacket but Im sure all these details will come together..... great work...

Thanks for reminding me, the life-jacket could use some re-working as well ! LOL It is picky of me t say these things, but Oleg seems to be a perfectionist like me, so I gather that if he had the chance to rememdy these features then he would

[Darkbluesky]

The shot of the Stuka with the propeller at low rpms makes me drool and wishing it was winter 2010...

Thanks Oleg

It is still WIP, of course, but the lights in the homes at night seems not to project light outside. Will it be like that in final version? Not too important of course, it is only curiosity (will be wonderful flying and to see the lights of villages at night/dawn...)

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I was shocked by that Sky47 image.

One of the best sunsets I've ever saw in a game. Can you guys make one of these without the FXOptions screen? I need this as a wallpaper

Great work (but, after this, I'm sure: I won't be able to put a hole in a Stuka in Storm of War )

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Oleg, loving the shots!

I have one gripe though, and maybe it is something we should take to PM's?

I am an avid collector of RAF flying clothing/equipment (especially the Battle of Britain period) and I have noticed some inaccuracies with the pilot you have shown.

Firstly, the irvin didn't have pockets, and for a correct Battle of Britain period portrayal the irvin should hve a 2-panel back. Looking at my irvin, there aren't those big seems on the arms as you have shown. For what, I think, you ca do with the engine: the b-type-flying helmet looks fine. Some colour tuning around the leather-ear-domes may be in need, but otherwise it is fine.
The SD trousers are fine, and so are the 1936 pattern boots. If you need any pictures of kit, let me know. I can give you a complete list of the different types of kit they wore, and I may be able to show you pictures of them wearing it.

Edit: BTW, the colour of the wool on the irvin is wrong as well, it should be a nice tan colour. Again I should point out that whatever model you are working from is sightly inaccurate. I could point out as well that there is a reproduction Irvin Jacket that looks like the one you have modelled here, and it is incorrect. If this is the case, then it is not your fault!

Let me know, I hope you read this

Yes. I was in hope that someone will say that he has everything we need Wen we posted on different forums requests - we wasn't able to get the full info. And in books there is so different info. So probably your good finding here
So, I'm going to clear up my PM. Its again 100% full

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Thanks for reminding me, the life-jacket could use some re-working as well ! LOL It is picky of me t say these things, but Oleg seems to be a perfectionist like me, so I gather that if he had the chance to rememdy these features then he would

I'm perfecinist till the time when I have a time...

[csThor]

The canopy on the 109 E was interchangable and so a lot of E-1 or E-3 had the "edgy" version introduced with the E-4. However the Luftwaffe's naming conventions also allowed for E-4 with the old round canopy - as long as the wing guns were MG FF/M. So the canopy is by no means an indicator for the version - all three (E-1, E-3 and E-4) could have both canopy types installed.

Regarding the Bf 109. I take the markings are still part of the skin? It looks the same as in the screenshots from ages ago. Ilya said Roman (Deniskin) was very pleased with my instructions regarding the markings on the 109 so I was wondering how far that work is.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

Why is the Bf 109E model still missing the head armor piece in the cocpit..?

Hopefully it isn't final.. there are plenty of pictures of Bf 109Es that were taken during the Battle, both with and without the back armored headrest.

Those with the headrest also show the curved top armor place (protecting the pilot from deflection attacks from above) present or missing.

One example being Bartlel's Bf 109E-1, WNr. 6296, forced down in air combat on 24 July 1940 - this one has both the armored headpiece, and curved armor piece on the top.



Obviously there was some irregularity with the fitting of these items, maybe preference of pilot, or unit commander, or delivery of these kits to units..

I am not sure if the engine allows such, but if it allows different 3D models to be loaded individually for each aircraft, it would be best if both options would be present for player choice, ie. player selects wheter he wants armor headrest present or not. Or it is set fixed for some units, based on photographic evidence. For example if player plays with III/JG 26, he has no choice and the headrest will be present.. if plays as pilot of other fighter unit, there will be no headrest. But probably simple player choice is better, simpler solution...

Probably you may see that there simply absent the datails of cockpit yet except gunsight...

And... there are many photos both with and without. And we probaly will have the same things in a sim. This things that are important for the gameplay we try to implement in enough amount (versions)