what joystick to get (win8, FFB)

[Covert_Death]

Hey guys,

I currently have a Saitek Cyborg Evo Force (wired) and i love it... that is until I started having a ton of problems with windows 8. the default spring (motors) doesn't seem to work, im getting FFB working but its very slack when not FFBing.

when installing the drivers, they install just fine but post install brings me to the set up screen and everything seems to work until i go to "test forcefeeback" it is SUPPOSED to press a button on the stick and then it will go through a different FFB routine (pre-progammed) but the software crashes when i push a button, all axis register though...

again it works in game but just doesn't feel right anymore because of the lack of "spring" to return it to (0,0).

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at this point im ready to buy a new stick but it seems joysticks are a dying bread as its hard to find ANYTHING that is windows 8 compatible and decent.

my mandatory list is:
win8 compatible
either HOTAS with pedals OR rudder twist (MUST have rudder control)
MUST have force feedback
needs to be within the $100 range at most.

does anyone have ANY recomendations for me???