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I tired again to add CloDer.exe to exception list but removed before completed by trend micro. I will call them tomorrow and discuss problem. Since I can't pretype name but must browes to file, open it, I get 28% open then deleted. I had it removed, as started above, by a page from WIN 8..stating unregistered app so deleted. It may be MS gets money from each app so outsiders removed. Believe me, I know nothing I am talking about except to describe results...of my blundering. John
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