On the subject of Free-To-Play and MMOs

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

At least that $20 is a mitigating factor and is tied to a CD-key of some sort. Cheaters are lazy; otherwise they would just take time to get good at the game rather than resort to cheats.

Nobody has unlimited cash/patience to keep buying game licenses.

Either way, go start your own "please give us pay2win" thread if you're so gung-ho about it.

Hah, a free to play/microtransaction model is the best you could hope for in an anti-cheat system! A constant flow of income from microtransactions keeps game company staff on the job of providing updates and gives incentive for the company to keep an eye out for cheaters, plugging holes where needed in regards to exploits/cheats. The company simply has to, it's their money farm now, if they don't tend to their crops, the money stops growing.

Free to play and *regularly* supported games are today's best anti-cheat system...WAAAY better than VAC, Punkbuster, etc. If a cheat happens, it's usually fixed and prevented after it's realized, a la World of Warcraft, Guild Wars 2, War Thunder. Unlike games like ours truly, CloD, where it's released into the wild with a snowball's chance in Hell to receive protection from cheating; It's released, no longer in developers hands with the leverage they need, or the ability to change a core mechanic to fix said cheats. Battlefield 3, a cheater's paradise -- the cheaters are rampant with no repercussions, no support from the developers...Call of Duty, etc. All games made for quick turnaround and no support.

The $60 games of today are going the way of the dodo. They're not made for longevity or continued support, but are designed for constant sequels 1-2 years later...the turnaround is horrendous.

And Doggles, your argument about not playing a game you're paying for because you're out doing other stuff is moot. If you're out doing other stuff, then don't buy the game, or cancel your subscription for that month. Furthermore, how can you stick to that sentiment and say you go skiing? I'm sure those skis, poles, goggles, boots, bindings, pants, jacket, and cute beanie with the puffball on top cost you at LEAST $500 altogether for the cheapie-cheap-cheapest stuff...yet you only use that when it snows...on a day off. So does that mean you're cool with paying for it when there's no snow on the ground? Why buy ski equipment at all then? Why doesn't that bother you?

If there's a subscription model in place in the sequel, it would be foolish to not follow suit of almost every other F2P model and charge more than $15 USD as other MMOs do. That's pennies an hour per month from your pocket even if you play just on the weekends. Company's recognize no one likes pay-to-win, if 1C were smart, the paid items in-game will be attainable by all, but attainable quicker by the buyers. That's easy to live with.

No one is going to give you a game for free. No one is going to develop a game without securing their interests in being a successful company.

Regarding your first post about not buying their product if "this" or "that", Doggles...I'll see you in the skies of that sequel on day one. Guaranteed.