Cliff's of Dover will be updated by installing the sequel over it. yay!

Not sure about this diamond-in-the-rough or gem-in-a-turd analogy.

The core qualities are fairly clear. The only hope lies in external qualities and work, add-ons, user involvement etc. Everything suggests the underlying code base is fairly inept...with a few supporters hoping they can make it more ept.

Talking of perceived shenanigans...the mods seem to be playing whack-a-mole lately with dissenting threads. The problem with that is, the voices just emerge in other threads...it doesn't go away. Might as well leave one or two buildings standing so people know what to expect. Put us in one place, so to speak.