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[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by swiss

The EF would have been an awesome plane - if it was out in the 90s...
Let's sum it up:

- it's over 10 years late

So? What do you want, a new multi-role jet every 5 years? It was designed with longevity in mind. The F-18 is 25 years old, yet you don't hear a lot of people complaining about it (and let's not even look at the F-15 or F-16..).

- has no stealth capabilities

has less stealth capabilities than an F-22 maybe, but it has a good stealth level.

- way too expensive

is it? Compared to what exactly? Last time I checked an F-22 price tag it didn't come cheaper than an EF.

- it's 2011, yet there's still no thrust vectoring

Yeah, too bad that thrust vectoring doesn't really serve much of a purpose, other than doing fancy manouvres at an airshow..

This plane is friggin joke. On the other hand, it's the perfect weapon to scare the crap out of some 3rd world countries...
Too bad the "Allied" didn't lose any over Libya.

your conclusion is somehow despicable. And for the record, the US lost several "stealth" jets, most notably an F-117 over Serbia..

Rumor has it it came out as the favorite of the swiss airforce, they evaluated the EF, Rafale and Grippen.
Should that prove to be true, for the time in my life I'll join the lefties and vote it down.

for once Switzerland could be good and give back some of the money they robbed over the last 100 years, so let's hope they buy them yes.