The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by blackmme

To address your points

1.
I'm seriously going to leave the DVD, I think ignoring a vast amount of information and deciding that a DVD extra is the best source is just daft.

It's your opinion, mine was an example.

2.
What has the Schneider trophy got to do with this?

It was meant as a provocation in regards to the definition of "victory". But then again I suppose you think it was a honourable victory..

3.
Well the square, the preserved HMS Victory, the currency (up to quite recently), the Trafalgar day celebrations (widely celebrated on the 200th anniversary) , the beer... hmmmmmm beer etc, etc.

Regards Mike

I agree about the beer... hmmmmmmmm beer

Originally Posted by blackmme

Yes Pearl Harbor was a big tactical Japanese Victory.

Could you do me a favour and run the Battle of Midway through your personal 'What constitutes a victory' filter and let me know the results?

Regards Mike

Really? Why there needs always to be this "winning and losing" scenario? Pearl Harbour was a surprise attack, it was a success, but not a victory.

I gave you the example of the battle of Kursk.