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[BadAim]

It's really kind of getting nasty here. It can be quite frustrating to get
something that you're passionate about across to someone who's contrary view is
just as passionate.

I don't really think the name-calling is necessary or fruitful. It's certainly
not conducive to getting a point across, it only escalates a perfectly good
argument into a fight. I'd rather enjoy a nice argument on the internet that
does not break down into a fight, it would be such a rare and precious thing

I think it might be a good idea to define some terms.

Those who advocate the use of firearms for self defense are usually arguing the
case for self defense it's self, not so much for firearms themselves (that most people who actually keep firearms for personal defense are or become enthusiasts and enjoy their guns as a piece of sporting equipment really muddies up the issue) It is a simple fact that when it comes right down to it, at the point where the shit is hitting the fan, nothing get's the job of self defense done like a firearm. nothing.

To the point of a portion of the population of a given country/ province/ state/ what have you taking away from another portion of the population what they consider to be a right; nothing could be more democratic. Democracy is little more than mob rule with government backing (If I've said it before, it bears repeating. You can put all the lipstick on that pig you like, it doesn't change things). This is why the U.S. is a Constitutional Republic, so that the rights of all the people might be protected from the majority while still providing for majority rule. (I will grant that we've not done a bang up job of it all of the time, but the concept still works well)

I understand that passions can run hot on this subject, but lets do try to keep it civil guys.