Polikarpov I-16 Stalling?

[havard01]

Has anybody had the Polikarpov I-16 stall on them?

I've had it twice now on Realistic mode where the engine cuts out in a dive with WEP on full.

I've had to restart the mission on both occasions because I couldn't get the engine to restart.

Any ideas?

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by havard01

Has anybody had the Polikarpov I-16 stall on them?

I've had it twice now on Realistic mode where the engine cuts out in a dive with WEP on full.

I've had to restart the mission on both occasions because I couldn't get the engine to restart.

Any ideas?

First off, why are you using WEP going into a dive? Second, probably because your burning out your engine.

[mattd27]

Yep that happened to me a few times when I was getting used to the plane. Don't restart the mission though! Just bailout and get a fresh plane.

[havard01]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

First off, why are you using WEP going into a dive? Second, probably because your burning out your engine.

I find myself using WEP virtually all of the time in an attempt to keep the airspeed up and prevent it from stalling. (This may include the start of a dive if I have previously been inverted.)

[Soviet Ace]

It's probably because your pulling to hard back, and to the side. The I-16 is maneuverable, but it does have its limits. Try not to pull back so hard, theny you'll do fine with keeping the speed up. Rolling around and around kills your airspeed anyway, and if you do it more and more times in a row, then your going to stall fast. But that's with any aircraft.

[fuzzychickens]

I'll answer this.

The I-16 uses a carburator and in service it had problems with negative G's choking the supply of fuel to the engine.

This was modelled in IL2 and apparently made the transition to BOP.

So basically, don't push FOWARD on the stick for extended periods, instead roll you plane over so you don't pull neg-Gs.

Also, since this is realistically modelled, you have an excellent escape method against I-16s if you are in a fuel injected plane, just do a slow negative-G dive then roll into a immelman - the I-16 will have to either roll and follow (you get extra separation while he does this) or he'll try neg_G and his engine will cut and you have an easy kill.

Someone should sticky info on this so people don't think this is a bug in the game.

[Raw Kryptonite]

For me it was using WEP too much and locking up the engine...which actually impressed the hell out of me. LOL
I figure it's basically committing suicide.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

For me it was using WEP too much and locking up the engine...which actually impressed the hell out of me. LOL
I figure it's basically committing suicide.

With a plane like that, IT IS!

[fuzzychickens]

Everyone, just do this.

1. Go into training, pick the I-16 and set altitude at a few thousand feet.
2. ONce in air, push your stick foward and hold it there (doing an outside loop).
3. Notice your engine will die - the carburator can't supply fuel to the engine under negative G.

Which brings up another point, there is no way to restart the engine like you could on the PC.

Using WEP will kill any engine - but this is not why most of you experience the stalled engine in the I-16, it's negative-Gs, you have to minimize this.

This points out Oleg and crew's dedication to realism in the original PC game - the kind of interesting things you learned from that game you would never know from playing other so called flight sims.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Everyone, just do this.

1. Go into training, pick the I-16 and set altitude at a few thousand feet.
2. ONce in air, push your stick foward and hold it there (doing an outside loop).
3. Notice your engine will die - the carburator can't supply fuel to the engine under negative G.

Which brings up another point, there is no way to restart the engine like you could on the PC.

Using WEP will kill any engine - but this is not why most of you experience the stalled engine in the I-16, it's negative-Gs, you have to minimize this.

This points out Oleg and crew's dedication to realism in the original PC game - the kind of interesting things you learned from that game you would never know from playing other so called flight sims.

Someone's been taking an interest in Soviet planes