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Old 01-01-2009, 12:39 PM
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I come from the thought that Mods=Cheating. If 1C wanted to allow Mods they would have created a section like in the Call of Duty games for Mods. I am by NO means calling everybody with Mods a cheater but what the Mods do allow, is doubt to be put in peoples minds that the enemy plane they are facing has that little something extra. Don't think that the people who started AAA are so innocent by the way. I have been on Comms with them before they started it and know some of the things they tried. Not saying that they put the stuff out there but I know what they did such as Spit 25lbs attributes in MKVIII, LA7 attributes in a LA5 and so on. They didn't add jets to 153ps because they knew it would be seen right away. Like I said the changes were made to test. This also in not hear say. I was on comms with them. They even asked permission to run them on the 334th server which I was a part of. We denied their request and also asked them not to advertise their Mods. When I created the USL league, Mods were one of the biggest issues we had to deal with. 1C definetly didn't add in enough security into the software to block the Mods.
Guys everytime you think a Sim or game is lacking your gona change it to make you happy? Is that how it works? Where does it end? Look at what happened to CFS series. They are some day going to come out with B.O.B and whats gona happen then? How fast are you people gona want to Mod that? People are never satisfied. Never. Somebody always has to ruin it for the others.

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Old 01-01-2009, 12:45 PM
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I come from the thought that Mods=Cheating. If 1C wanted to allow Mods they would have created a section like in the Call of Duty games for Mods.

not if tied by contracts to Ubi ....

other stuff you've posted is just hear-say .... if it was true we would have x-wings flying all over servers by now .

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Old 01-01-2009, 12:48 PM
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not if tied by contracts to Ubi ....

other stuff you've posted is just hear-say .... if it was true we would have x-wings flying all over servers by now .

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Well done,mr Fly_zo, call him/everyone with a differant oppinion a liar and or a wannabe cheat.


U sir, are a complete idiot.



P.S. Dont bother spouting bs back at me...u are ignored.

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Old 01-01-2009, 12:59 PM
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Read my Post again. I clearly state I was on comms with them. It was before they started AAA website and server.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:07 PM
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Read my Post again. I clearly state I was on comms with them. It was before they started AAA website and server.

ah, sorry then .... well, obviously they changed their minds after AAA was started

cos no x-fighters there and its been over a Year now

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Old 01-01-2009, 01:25 PM
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Well done,mr Fly_zo, call him/everyone with a differant oppinion a liar and or a wannabe cheat.


U sir, are a complete idiot.



P.S. Dont bother spouting bs back at me...u are ignored.

LOL.

Baron. You, sir, are a grade A Knob.

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Old 01-01-2009, 01:54 PM
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Baron:: "nock it off"
Visualize Sargent Carter...nock it off Pyle, what's wrong with you!



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I come from the thought that Mods=Cheating. If 1C wanted to allow Mods they would have created a section like in the Call of Duty games for Mods.
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They are some day going to come out with B.O.B and whats gona happen then? How fast are you people gona want to Mod that?
Oleg plans to allow some form of modding in BoB And Beyond. Now that could make Oleg a cheater by the playground bullie's original definition: Anybody who wants to mod or who allows modding.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:03 PM
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mmm...better.

The bullies' definition of cheaters included those who ...

Wanted to mod.
Use mods.
Encourage modding ...ie possibly Oleg in BoB And Beyond.


The definition may have to change.
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Old 01-01-2009, 02:54 PM
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Look, I'm not saying there are not valid concerns about mods etc, I'm just saying the mass hysteria and doom and gloom are unjustified, as are the insults people are posting about mod users. If you feel that the cracking of the code is something you do not want to have anything to do with then thats fine, good on ya, but don't slander those with a different opinion and certainly don't spread lies and misinformation about the mods themselves just because you disagree with the way this started. Feel free to argue all day about the root of the issue and what it is that you disagree with, the cracking of olegs IP, but there's no need to sling mud and to take the topic to ridiculous area's that have nothing to do with reality or the cracking of the code.
Sorry but wrong adress, if Copperhead and some other insult you, then that's the problem with you and him/them there is no need to spread BS on me. That is the problem with such discussion as you guys get so fired up by the flamers you also can't discuss reasonably.
Cheats are a problem now and they weren't before, you again here tried to justify and explain what I said but we both now it's BS.

There is also one thing even worse than cheats - the mistrust between players and the doubt you have at every strange thing you see especially if once you really saw cheating in use. I know you guys are just humans also and get offended reading Coppers and some other posts but if you would see just what you post from a "third" persons view you would find little to no difference between Copperhead's comments and yours.

Same sh1t - different wrapping
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Old 01-01-2009, 03:10 PM
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Cheats are a problem now and they weren't before,...
Actually, anonymous public servers always had severe problems with cheaters using game exploits, long before the mods came out.

The greatest reason people started flying in private servers and flying with people they knew was to escape the snotty behavior found in anonymous public servers. This is why modding is proving popular (edit -- is why going Mod is not hurting and so is popular) among many of the serious online communities now, as I always predicted. How did I know this would happen? Because I always looked at online play as nothing but social interaction.

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Sorry but wrong adress, if Copperhead and some other insult you, then that's the problem with you and him/them there is no need to spread BS on me.
Its not that easy. You can be associated by the people around you. It helps your position to jump in and put down false claims that seem to "take your side." I do that, although perhaps not often enough. Its hard to do with all the flaming.

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