OK pick you favourite aircraft 109 vs Spit

Ill choose both, 109 and the spit. Like always. Unlike most of the guys.

[F19_Klunk]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Ill...Unlike most of the guys.

Sto?

[Bloblast]

Originally Posted by IvanK

Blobblast

By the time the Battle of Britain commenced ALL Spitfires and Hurricanes were equipped with Constant Speed Props

Yes, but this was later on. Would be intresting when this done, Oleg could include this improvement some time in the BOB campaign.

Otherwise flutter would remain during whole BOB campaign.

Ill ask Oleg.

[Biggs]

Originally Posted by Bloblast

Yes, but this was later on. Would be intresting when this done, Oleg could include this improvement some time in the BOB campaign.

Otherwise flutter would remain during whole BOB campaign.

Ill ask Oleg.

Ive already done it...
"10. sorry if this has already been answered, but what is the time line for BoB:SoW going to span? ...
Are well looking at May '40 through September? or will it go on into winter '40/'41?"

Oleg's answer: June 40- October 40

"Is it known if the Spitfire and the Hurricane mkIs will be modeled with the 3-bladed De Havilland Constant Speed Propeller? both planes were fitted with them starting in June 1940... Or will the sim start at an earlier date and therefore have both the older 3-bladed 2-pitch DH Hamilton propeller and the later constant speed DH?"

Oleg's answer: Probably both variants. In code it is already.

"also are you planning on including the Spitfire mkII? squadrons started conversion to them in September '40."

Oleg's answer: No.

^that last answer is unfortunate. i dont really see why it wont be included, its not like there needs to be a completely reworked model, just a slightly changed FM. oh well.

[proton45]

I have to say that I have always enjoyed the BF109's "nasty-mean" looks...and I also love the history and beauty of the Spitfire...but like a lot of people here I'm really curious about trying my skills with the Hurricane. When you read "RL" story's about the air battles of "BoB" you read fantastic accounts of "every-day-joes" battling away with the "bread & butter" Hurricane...

In the end I will fly them ALL...

[flyingbullseye]

Since both are nearly as deadly as the next and almost equal in performance out of shear beauty I'm going for the spit.

Flyingbullseye

[Bloblast]

Originally Posted by Biggs

Ive already done it...
"10. sorry if this has already been answered, but what is the time line for BoB:SoW going to span? ...
Are well looking at May '40 through September? or will it go on into winter '40/'41?"

Oleg's answer: June 40- October 40

"Is it known if the Spitfire and the Hurricane mkIs will be modeled with the 3-bladed De Havilland Constant Speed Propeller? both planes were fitted with them starting in June 1940... Or will the sim start at an earlier date and therefore have both the older 3-bladed 2-pitch DH Hamilton propeller and the later constant speed DH?"

Oleg's answer: Probably both variants. In code it is already.

"also are you planning on including the Spitfire mkII? squadrons started conversion to them in September '40."

Oleg's answer: No.

^that last answer is unfortunate. i dont really see why it wont be included, its not like there needs to be a completely reworked model, just a slightly changed FM. oh well.

BOBSOW from June, so cutting out of engine should not be moddeled in game?

By the way this is very intresting read:

[*Buzzsaw*]

Originally Posted by Bloblast

Here some technical data, 109 faster under 5.700 meter, Spit faster above and higher topspeed.

109 2x 7,92mm MG's (Firing time 67sec) 2x 20mm canons (Firing time 7sec) versus Spit 8x 7,7mm MG's (Firing time 18sec).

Spit has only 2 prop pitch settings and carburettor engine while 109 has fuel injections so has no fuel flow stops during high G's.


Bf109 E-3 Spitfire Mk Ia

DB 601A Merlin II / III

1.175 HP 1.030 HP

Speed kph kph
sea level 486 454
1.200 mt 506 477
2.400 mt 528 502
3.600 mt 533 528
4.800 mt 562T 551
5.700 mt 560 570T
6.000 mt 559 568
7.200 mt 555 560

m/sec m/sec
Rate of climb 17,83 12,65

Your figures listed for the Spitfire are for +6 boost 1030hp versions, when in fact, nearly all the Spitfires operational in the BoB after July were using +12 boost.

I would suggest you look through this page for the details re. the evolution of Spit I performance:

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-I.html

[Brain32]

I suggest you don't look too much into Won teh war bullshit on that site

[ElAurens]

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