Announcement of the game "IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad"

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by 777 Studios - Jason

Just imagine a world of regular content releases, moderately priced, with new planes and theaters on a well-functioning engine with interesting 3rd party content being made. Not since the original IL-2 has anyone even gotten close to this promise. IL-2 was released what over a decade ago? We want to give this to you, but we can only get there if you give us a fair shot and your support. If this fails, I don't see anyone else attempting such a product for a long, long time. Only 1C and 777 are foolish enough to try. Give us some credit for that. There is WT and WOWP coming, but it won't be the same as a Sturmovik product.

Jason

I`m all for it. IMO most people here perfectly understand, that you`ll need a steady cash flow to make this new project work and grow. There were countless times when people offered dollars for one aircraft, just to fly it even if there is no scenario to cover it. It is just that not all of us necessarily enjoy a biz model where you have to pay additional money for say a scarf, an ammo loadout or a cammo. That is a little too much. Ofcourse giving people OPTIONS to buy it is nice, though we never should do this to hurt the theatre of operations. For example, I`d be very displeased if you provided a Bf109F4 for the Stalingrad, but asked money for the Bf109G2. You just don`t do that.

Also, please consider that CloD lacks similar thing what RoF lacks - and that is good coop material. I don`t mean an MMO, far from it. I mean that CloD devs have neglected the classic coop mode that so many of us had used and one of the reasons why the original IL2 still lives. And for that we need also a good full mission builder.

All in all, I sincerely hope you can build a more sophisticated sim than RoF.

[312_Jura]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

its not an "opinion" sport, its a fact

well not for me mate.. or am I not allowed to disagree with him?

[justme262]

This is great news! Shut up and take my money now!
I switched to ROF months ago anyway. With flight sims, as with most things ...You get what you pay for.
Every pay day I would buy a new ROF plane for about he price of a sandwich.
I truly pity you poor people who can't afford that. But for most people this is hardly gonna break the bank.
This way I always have something new to play with and something more to look forward to. And the dev team have cash flow so they can actually afford to fix old content and make new content. WIN WIN.
I fly online for a couple of hours everyday day so the cost per hour is extremely cheap.
All those guys bashing ROF obviously don't even play it online.

Hey did anyone notice how that last patch was by far the best patch ever for CLOD?
The first patch that actually fixed more than it broke. Well well it was someone from 777 who came in and took charge. This bodes well methinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRedr6rDRcg

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by justme262

Hey did anyone notice how that last patch was by far the best patch ever for CLOD?
The first patch that actually fixed more than it broke. Well well it was someone from 777 who came in and took charge. This bodes well methinks.

So if someone from 777 came in and sorted that, why can't they stay with the COD engine?

Hopefully whatever's next will be be good enough, but right now I'm sad.

[Hooves]

ZAP, YES people will buy a product that works, they will continually support a company that produces a great experience for its customers. It sounds like the only reason you don't believe it is because you have been eating shovel fulls of DUNG coming from the Luthier machine. Jaded are we?

Seriously are you going to DIE if BoS doesnt have Cockpit damage? And who is to say between now and then that they dont add cockpit damage?

You know I was just saying the other day, man Im so glad that CloD had cockpit damage that I don't even mind SEEING ALL ENEMY TARGETS THROUGH CLOUDS!!!!!!!!!!! Just as long as my cockpit has damage modeled. Forget the fact that the British side only has ONE GOD DAMN BOMBER, Im just over the moon that my cockpit has damage models!!!! WHAT my SPIT CANT OUT CLIMB a 109 E-1, like the history books and manuals prove?? NO Biggie... You know why??? You guessed it. Man I dont think its ever rained in Clod, ah Foowie you know what I want!!!! COCKPIT DAMAGE MODELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Jesus you should listen to yourselves.


Lets just enjoy the rest of the time we have left with our dear friend CloD then strap her leash to the bumper and drive to 777 Studios, National Lampoon style.

[justme262]

I actually hope they don't change the ROF engine too much because it works in 3d now. Cockpit damage?! When I play ROF at night my cockpit looks like a hologram! I can see my tracers arcing onto the enemy planes at range with depth. CLOD 3d looks ridiculous and doesn't work.

The CLOD engine is a money pit. So many people have worked on it for so long ...nobody even knows what is going on under the hood any more. They tried to rewrite the graphics engine and still the AA doesn't work properly. The enemy planes wings flicker off and on. The grass and clouds flash on and off and the enemy planes DISAPPEAR as they approach and change LOD!

ROF just works.

CLOD was too ambitious and it has been sad to see it fail but dam I'm glad 777 is here to take the reins cause I love combat flight sims and want to keep buying them.

[il_corleone]

ok, i saw the notice and here is my honorable mini review
ok, first of all, i saw the "new" engine, looks like it has some littles (or no littles) problems, like the number of objects or something like that, it is going to use dx9, and some people arguing whit its a backwards.

ok my first reaction was the angry about they dropped this engine, i,ve always thinkint that the potential of this engine is one of the more biggest in the market, like if we say (Cryengine3 for fps or something like that) i know its buged and dont work well, but i liked it, in the last patch it was playable for all people (or most).

But yeah, ok the 777 Studios is very..mm i say expert on the market and has much funds, lets see what can it make, i am in a neutral position, whit my opinion advantages and disvantages, but leets see what this guys can offer us, if its good i like it, if its not i dont, as simple as that, but i think talking now is a little bit stupid, we didnt see the game, they can surprise us whit good game or not, so i am neutral, please, Jason from the 777 Studios, you need to do a good communication whit the community, showing work.. etc

ps: They droped CLiffs of dover, why not giving the SDK? the modders out there ar very skilled and can do Fixes, mods and ETC to expand the title,please 1C Release the SDK.

[d.burnette]

Originally Posted by il_corleone

ps: They droped CLiffs of dover, why not giving the SDK? the modders out there ar very skilled and can do Fixes, mods and ETC to expand the title,please 1C Release the SDK.

Blacksix has already stated in another thread, they did not have time and get around to doing the SDK, and now there will not be one.

[robtek]

Well, it seems that the RoF fans are out in masses, blissfully ignoring the major flaws of the RoF - engine and concentrating on the working parts.

Be assured, without a major overhaul the RoF engine, as it is now, is completely unsuitable to simulate a air-ground war with decent map size, object numbers and AI planes.

The CoD engine, at least, is limited by its bugs, not its design.

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by d.burnette

Anyone else having trouble creating an account on the new forum?
I registered, got the activation email, clicked the link, and nothing. Even tried copying and pasting link into my browser, still nothing...

Same here. I have tried different browsers. Whenever I want to create an account I get "Allowed only latin characters and numbers", despite my password being just Latin characters and numbers.