Beating a dead horse

[ElAurens]

Great idea.




And nearmiss, please, A: learn to read, and B: grow up.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Chivas, thanks for the quotes, and the clarification on the engine/FM thing.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

You need to remember nobody cracked anything since 2000. Oleg has had carte blanche treatment, like no other developer I'm aware. That is, as far as messing with any part of his sacred code. For years, we've been dependent on favored insiders to produce maps for IL2. The maps we now can acquire at AAA are better than every IL2 map, except Slovakia.

This whole community has been messed over for the past 2+ years. The 4.09patch is a good example. No one messed with anything until they started gettting messed over.

MARK THESE WORDS
Console air combat game like IL2 will NEVER be successful.


Several reasons... The kids that play the Console games are interested in very fast action, little strategy tweaks, and lots of noise, monster explosions, lots of hacking, pounding and shooting. Console game playes want incredible stuff at fast and furious speeds. They sure aren't going to be interested to perfect air combat flying skills to nail a tough realsitic enemy flight and damage model aircraft. Console game players have their little efficient controller secured between their little jam cover fingers and they're giving what for to what's it. LOL

PC developers of Complex games like the IL2 Sturmovik have got to figure ways to protect their software from piracy. If they can't find a way to do that large numbers of thieves will certainly bootleg. The immersion is the big thing with a Combat Flight Sim like IL2, the joystick, the throttle, the pedals, the sound, the track IR. Users experience a game like IL2... they don't play it.

The Il2 Sturmovik - Birds of Prey console game will flop

If you play the Trailer for Birds of Prey... the map area is Britain and the aircraft are 16 polys. These are things Oleg was presenting to start with about the BOB SOW. I conclude, He got diverted and that's what he's spent his time on.

Too bad, the BOB SOW is dead.

If you think you're supporting the IL2 community by buying a console game like Birds of Prey you are wrong. You're just pushing us further from competent PC based Combat flight siml like the BOB SOW would have been.

You should read this response from a guy you may have heard of...his name is "nearmiss" (ironic, yes?), and he had this to say about posts like yours:

Originally Posted by "nearmiss"
All these authoritarians on the forums boards that write postings in an officious manner. They present themselves to be insiders and know something all the rest of us do not, and all we dummies had better listen up.

They're as bad as the crazy dudes that dress up and act like policemen. The kind that ride around in automobiles that they have fixed up to look like police cars and look for people to harrass. These kinda dudes are basically nuts.

Ironic, yes?

[BadAim]

Should we be suprised at the conspiracy theorists? It took them over 40 years to figure out that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. They will be arguing over BOP for years after BOB has been released.

I thought it took over 40 years to try and convince us the Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy, when all the facts say he didn't. But then again i bet you believe man landed on the moon.

[Shrike_UK]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

How many times do you guys have to be told that the console game is not Oleg's? All he supplied was the IL2 engine, nothing else. No models, no maps, no content of any kind.

Do any of you ever read any posts here for comprehension? Are you even capable of it?

And quit the childish whining about 4.09. Spamming the forums with your schoolyard bully tone only makes you look like fools, and will not get you a patch any quicker.

In short, grow up.

Why have i never seen you or any of the the other badmouthing blitzpigs ingame for the past 8-9 years? is it because people would gang up on you?

The last squad that challenged us lost 50-0 due to our superior tactics and teamwork. I'm sure i could resource the best teamplayer pilots once more, if there is a worthy enemy.

Keep the flames out the forums. You want to put people down, then i suggest you learn who you are attacking or you wont stand a chance.

Shrike
Ex-Founder of NDS, DEY, KSS
Ex- Pilot of US_8TH, BSW, Ku101, RAF33.

[SlipBall]

BOB SOW is a work in progress that can not be rushed to completion by anxious people. If it were dead, Oleg would step up and say so!...I'm sure that they are doing the very best that they can to get it to market

[jermin]

Originally Posted by Shrike_UK

Why have i never seen you or any of the the other badmouthing blitzpigs ingame for the past 8-9 years? is it because people would gang up on you?

The last squad that challenged us lost 50-0 due to our superior tactics and teamwork. I'm sure i could resource the best teamplayer pilots once more, if there is a worthy enemy.

Keep the flames out the forums. You want to put people down, then i suggest you learn who you are attacking or you wont stand a chance.

Shrike
Ex-Founder of NDS, DEY, KSS
Ex- Pilot of US_8TH, BSW, Ku101, RAF33.

Yes. High post counts = Low flying skill. That's always an unbreakable rule throughout ubi and here. People really playing games won't have much time hanging around forums. We really need a place for professional players to communicate with each other, like Gotfrag.com

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Shrike_UK

Why have i never seen you or any of the the other badmouthing blitzpigs ingame for the past 8-9 years? is it because people would gang up on you?

The last squad that challenged us lost 50-0 due to our superior tactics and teamwork. I'm sure i could resource the best teamplayer pilots once more, if there is a worthy enemy.

Keep the flames out the forums. You want to put people down, then i suggest you learn who you are attacking or you wont stand a chance.

Shrike
Ex-Founder of NDS, DEY, KSS
Ex- Pilot of US_8TH, BSW, Ku101, RAF33.

I remember when I first got Il2 1.0 about a century ago. I posted on the Ubi forums. It was common to get singled out by several Blitzpigs and they'd rag the heck out of you. After awhile may posters just wouldn't respond to them.

I didn't play online, but I could sure see a reason people might gang up on them.

A bunch of "smart a$$ know it alls" was their claim to faime.

I dont think SOW is dead, but i have to say if it comes out in 2009 or 10 then it must hold the record for the most time taken to develop a game. We have been led to believe that Oleg and crew have been working flat out on this since 2006, if that is true then its gonna have to sell shed loads to recoup any cash.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by [B

[COLOR="Blue"]ElAurens[/COLOR[/B]];47349]Great idea.




And nearmiss, please, A: learn to read, and B: grow up.

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

Chivas, thanks for the quotes, and the clarification on the engine/FM thing.

I'm not going to respond to the above ridiculous put down.

Personal attacks turn threads into a beligerent poster's battleground.

There is no way I could have ask you to prove it, and you not get off on it.

The way you worded your response there was no recourse, except to call you on it....or let you think you got "me told".

At least Chivas did try to make a decent response, which you certainly didn't.

I appreciate what Chivas did because I had not seen that thread.

Also, there was not mention of whether the renders were from BOB SOW or not. FLight models and damage models are not flight model renderings of the aircraft.

I appreciate all the content from one forum thread.

Proton45 - I pick up on your tone. I don't declare I have any special knowledge or insider anything. I'm a user of the IL2 just like everyone else... except for the elite few who know everything.

The console game means nothing to me.

I probably shouldn't have discussed it, but it does appear to me that resources from BOB SOW were used to develop it.

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One thing that triggers alot of the way I think is in the way the BOB SOW has not been promoted, except for a few words and aircraft images for two+ years.

Then the patch that is never finished. IMO, when people quit... they quit.

I do believe Oleg answered those postings that head this board, but I'm thinking we are just pumped a little information to keep us going for what reason I don't know.

When people plan to sell something they are excited about they are usually very eager to get potential customers excited as well.

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All we expect or look forward to from Oleg may be a thing of the past anyway.

If Putin continues to screw around with Georgia and George we sure as heck won't get a BOB SOW until the end of the next cold war.

Probably the only reason this boards hasn't been shut down is the http doesn't end in ru.

The ice is getting thin guys. If the board does get shut down like Lockon ----

I've enjoyed all of you guys and the community, including some of you that may not be that happy with me.

Arguments are excellent tools for thinkers and I think you'll miss alot in life if you can't tolerate constructive argument.