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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-01-2012, 02:04 AM
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Note the lack of listing any specific effect in the video that were removed.. and the implied dishonesty but no actual proof of it..

These are the sort of vague accusation I was referring to in my post..
I seriously think you're actually a professional troll at this point, but I'll indulge you.

1. Cloud effects that are not possible to generate in game without using the now deactivated and instantly crashing weather system.

2. Cloud reflections on the water which were removed.

3. Fire and smoke effects which were removed.

4. Airframe reflection effects which were removed.

5. Sound effects for engines and guns which are non-existant in the game since day one.

6. The suggestion that you can take part in 128 player battles when in reality 60+ creates warping that makes the game nearly unplayable and certainly not enjoyable.

And this is just from the promo film on Steam. There's more from the description of the game:

Over 25 Aircrafts – English, German & Italian aircraft including the Spitfire, The Hurricane, and the Messerschmitt Bf-109. Every detail faithfully recreated.
Every detail faithfully recreated? Not by any religion I know. Also cleverly disingenuous in stating 25 aircraft implying you can fly them by then listing the obviously flyable ones.

Massive Multiplayer – Customizable modes allow for up to 128 players in huge ongoing battles or hop in deathmatch-style free-for-alls.
Here's that 128 thing again.

And just for the sake of something to think about. Every feature that was in the game in its initial release form is a sort of promise. That's the stuff they're saying is in their game. We didn't buy the game as a beta. We bought it as a finished product. Everything they've taken out since then and haven't managed to bring back in is a bit of a broken promise. You want us to start listing those one by one too Ace?

I'd like to add here that I like the game! I really do! I keep playing it, don't I? I think it's worth playing. But if you've got weeks and weeks and weeks between releasing patches, spend 20 bloody minutes to make sure all the aircraft start before you upload the damn thing. Hell, it's not like this isn't something they've had happen already! It's the FIRST thing you should check! How long did it take us to find it? And we don't even work the code.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:24 AM
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:24 AM
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I seriously think you're actually a professional troll at this point, but I'll indulge you.................
Thank you for taking the time to respond to the troll. I tip my hat. You are a braver man than me, he'll wear you down with his one liners and his truth.

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Old 10-01-2012, 07:33 AM
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:47 AM
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May I ask a stupid question (or it seem so);
What is the difference for a pilot in a single seater fighter to be in a battle with 50 planes and 128 planes?
I shall partly answer this but try to find more answers;
in a battle with 50 planes you have one on 50 chances to be a causality in a 128 aircrafts battle you have statistically less chances to be shoot down. It is why the "big wings" did less damage.


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Old 10-01-2012, 08:06 AM
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May I ask a stupid question (or it seem so);
What is the difference for a pilot in a single seater fighter to be in a battle with 50 planes and 128 planes?
I shall partly answer this but try to find more answers;
in a battle with 50 planes you have one on 50 chances to be a causality in a 128 aircrafts battle you have statistically less chances to be shoot down. It is why the "big wings" did less damage.

The difference is this senseispcc, on the huge BOB map if you fly realistically, 40 players means you will spend most of your time not seeing anything, unless you fly low quick sorties across the channel to meet the enemy flying the same way.

Which is what happens most of the time online.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:32 AM
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Tbf Furbs that was a problem with the original il2 as well. A dogfight would start up high slowly descend with more fighters joining in. So it's more to do with pilots than the game as I have experienced this problem with every flight sim I have played.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:23 AM
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Tbf Furbs that was a problem with the original il2 as well. A dogfight would start up high slowly descend with more fighters joining in. So it's more to do with pilots than the game as I have experienced this problem with every flight sim I have played.
True krupi, which is where CO-OPs come in...or dont with CLOD.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:31 AM
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True krupi, which is where CO-OPs come in...or dont with CLOD.
Agreed, coops are good fun.

I don't understand why some people can't see the benefits of a coop system.

The whole planning of the mission, following the route to the target. It's just not the same as on a server no matter how many targets you have or how well planned your sortie is, your guaranteed to run into a crazy lone wolf online while a coop is much more realistic and perfect for squad training.... It's a must for the next game.
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