the stuff dreams are made of!!!

[Eckhart]

Watch this and tell me if you are not dreaming about something like this?

http://schreinerschmid-web.homepage....e.de/c190a.wmv


Now let's come back to earth and look at this fighterstick replica which is a part of this cockpit. I found it on simware

http://www.simw.com/index.cfm?fuseac...tails&pid=2014

and some more pictures on the manufacturer's website

http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501...ession*id*val*

This looks very similar to the stick proposed by the Tarmac group ( there is another thread about this stick on this website).

Now here is a question and I hope someone from the Tarmac group will give us the answer:

What is the difference between the Tarmac KG13 and this model (besides the price )?

On a personal note, I tried to contact the Tarmac group twice to get some information about how to order their stuff and get it to North America. Once I got one initial email and then nothing and the next time I never got any answer. Makes you wonder how they will handle any service problem later on. It is a lot of money to pay and you would like to be sure that you are investing in good quality and good service. Would be glad to hear about other people's comments about dealing with the Tarmac group!

Otherwise I will have to continue to save up my money until I will be able to pay for something like this: http://www.simcontrol.co.uk/offboard.htm

or perhaps get myself the cockpit you saw on this video???

just kidding


Cheers,

Eckhart

[VA_Deacon]

Where's the famous "bar"?

[Eckhart]

right down the mess hall...lol

No seriously you have to ask the manufacturer but honestly I could do without it....

Cheers,

Eckhart

[|ZUTI|]

That video... what's the sim that it's flying on? FSX?

But yes, me wants one, NOW! Off into the dream land

[Eckhart]

I guess the FM is from Shockwave using Microsoft FlightSimulator as flightsim.

yeah me too I would luv to fly around in this cockpit...with the 3D motion simulator included....ah well...dreamland

[Windturbin]

This looks very similar to the stick proposed by the Tarmac group ( there is another thread about this stick on this website).

Now here is a question and I hope someone from the Tarmac group will give us the answer:

What is the difference between the Tarmac KG13 and this model (besides the price )?

If my math is correct, the tarmac base and stick comes to about $1300.00 US dollars and the Simware comes to about $714.00? I have no idea what shipping would be?

To me, looking at the pics, the two sticks look exactly the same. The $600 difference must be in the quality of the base? Appearance wise the Tarmac base looks as though it is of better quality. But is it $600 dollars better? It is possible I guess that Looks can be deceiving?

Gosh, its hard to want to fork over that kinda cash based on looking at pictures. (is hard no matter what) Bolox can testify to the Tarmac quality, but it might be imposible to find someone who has tried them both, who can say if the Tarmac is that much if any better than the Simware stick.

The simware sight does have a more secure feeling about it than the Tarmac sight, but Bolox says they are A ok.

[zapatista]

nice setup in the german video, thx for posting it eckhart

but in il2 you'd have to fly in the no cockpit view, and change the frame structure at the top of his aircraft simulator to represent the correct cockpit skeleton so you dont fly a spitfire aircraft with a 190 cockpit structure (instrument pannel wouldnt matter much, having generic ones for all aircraft models would work fine)

what display is he using in the background, looks like a standard projector with a flat screen ?

add a curved screen for the projector and track-ir, it'be an amazing experience !

whats the cost on his cockpit's (and does that include all gauges and software to control/interface them in fsX ?), the stick is expensive but less then other high end replicas from other manufacturers (like the spitfire stick and throttle for ex)

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

Wow! thanks for the links Eckhart.

[bolox]

looks really nice and i'm really pleased that a 'major' distributor is stocking this kind of stuff- simware have always been very good on my orders. good times ahead for us controller freaks

been looking at the specs of the stick and the one on sale at simware is potentiometer equipped version- hall sensor version is available according to maunfacturers website but don't have a price for it. that would help explain some of the price difference.

the other difference is i presume, on the basis of no info to the contrary, that this stick has a sprung centre type movement like a 'traditional' joystick unlike tarmac's 'no return to centre' system. dampers are more expensive than springs.

to my limited r/l flying experience the tarmac sticks resistance creates a good impression of inertia in r/l controls and feels quite similar to glider flight.
subjective opinion

if i didn't already have a tarmac stick i would seriously be considering this- the cheaper price and dealing with an established distributor are definite plus points.

competition and choice can only be a good thing and might even stimulate one of the 'majors' to produce something.

realistic pits are becoming easier to assemble parts for now-Oleg, please note this trend for SOW

[Windturbin]

Oleg, please note this trend for SOW

HEAR, HEAR