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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-10-2012, 06:09 AM
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Win/Win.
Agreed. It's just that it was phrased that they are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.
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Old 07-10-2012, 01:43 PM
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That is your opinion and your welcome to it..

Just know that I and many others don't agree with it..

As for your graphics re-write comment..

I love the way you and yours try to have your cake and eat it too!

For examples
  • a) If your in the mood to complain about 1C's programers you point out the initial graphics engine was so bad that they had to do a re-write of the graphics engine.
  • b) If your in the mood to complain about 1C's support of CoD you conveniently leave out the fact that they took the time and money to re-write the graphics engine.
This is your opinion, but you must know when you look though these forums that I and many others don't agree with you. I would agree with the other posts that said the Graphics redesign was done mainly for the next game and not because they cared about use. I think you'll find when you look around in life that it's the samaritains that care and not the people who are out to make money as was shown in this games release.. Developers care about their product and how it sells they don't care about you. Do you honestly think they have done the rewrite on COD if a new game wasn't on the cards?

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Old 07-10-2012, 02:01 PM
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Developers care about their product and how it sells they don't care about you. Do you honestly think they have done the rewrite on COD if a new game wasn't on the cards?
Irrelevant. Another title was to be created from the very start of the whole project.
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:20 PM
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I can´t understand, if it´s really true that they will keep working in ALL the aspects of CloD and not only those who will serve to the sequel (i.e.: map), why Luthier don´t make an statement about all these speculations and throw some light on the matter. I´m sure if they does that, the confidence in the project will increase.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:06 PM
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Irrelevant. Another title was to be created from the very start of the whole project.
I think you will find it is rellevent because I was answering a question that was about the developers caring about use. However, if people like yourself are not willing to listen to an answer without twisting it into something it's not, then it's pointless answering you at all. Where is the link that says a new title was to be created from the very start of the whole project? Not that it matters because that's not the question I was answering before, it's more out of curiosity.

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Old 07-10-2012, 04:11 PM
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I can´t understand, if it´s really true that they will keep working in ALL the aspects of CloD and not only those who will serve to the sequel (i.e.: map), why Luthier don´t make an statement about all these speculations and throw some light on the matter. I´m sure if they does that, the confidence in the project will increase.

Yeah thats such a brilliant idea, because if Luthier himself comes here and said something then 'everyone' would just be so much happier because none of the whiners think Luthier is a liar/cheat/conman/incompetent (delete as appropriate)
I mean come on, it's just riddiculous how after all the fuss about 1C giving us a community manager they actually did it and then expected us to believe a word he says.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:11 PM
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For those who do wonder why, put yourself into 1C shoes for a moment.. And ask yourself
I would suggest that anyone who has been in a long term relationship with a woman understands this feeling only too well.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:24 PM
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You are taking my post a little out of context.(shocker) I was only replying to this point of yours.

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b) If your in the mood to complain about 1C's support of CoD you conveniently leave out the fact that they took the time and money to re-write the graphics engine.
The way you phrase it here, you make it sound like they are re-writing the engine as some act of "nobility". If the COD engine was only used for this title, you might have a point. Since future money relies on it, the devs "taking time and money" to fix the engine isn't as noble as your phrasing implies.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:24 PM
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The only reason they "took time and money" to rewrite the graphics engine is because their future sales of expansions and MMO rely on it.
That is some pretty airtight logic. I haven't the slightest clue why you seem to think it's a problem.

They fix the game. We all win.

They don't fix the game. We all lose.

Not happy that it's taking so long? Too bad. Find something else to do. Constant whining is not going to make it happen any faster.
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Old 07-10-2012, 04:37 PM
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That is some pretty airtight logic. I haven't the slightest clue why you seem to think it's a problem.

They fix the game. We all win.

They don't fix the game. We all lose.

Not happy that it's taking so long? Too bad. Find something else to do. Constant whining is not going to make it happen any faster.
This is my favorite post ever on this forum. The bottom line truth of the matter. Although I do like the Friday updates and wish EVERY FRIDAY they at least say something about the game or sequel. Complaining just makes it worse, we must be patient.
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