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Would you be a little more at ease say in North Africa? I can see your point if you're in England though. Being Canadian I didn't have 109s or Ju-88s flying over my town 72 years ago. I did have a Dad who was over seas though for three years. He was the one that got me hooked on 109s. Funny how things go. Last edited by Richie; 07-09-2012 at 07:37 AM. |
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I'm struggling to see what that has to do with Avro's original post or follow up comment though. Pure troll as I see it, that or an inveterate (or should that be invertebrate) Brit hater. Hood |
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07-09-2012, 08:38 AM
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07-09-2012, 10:27 AM
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the politicians of yesterday and today are the real "nazis" (old men start wars etc. )
nobody hate the average us citizen couse bush and his generals are mass murderers- the same with any other nation. the only options 99% of people have are do it or starve, be executed for trason and so on. to end my little post its just a game (the sim) |
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07-09-2012, 02:11 PM
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Nah, he's probably too busy denying Asylum seekers basic human rights and inflicting terrible abuse to people who have committed no crime whatsoever in Oz 'concentration camps' like the modern day 'Christmas Island', for example! I think the 'Moral relativists' here have to re-examine their Morality, and think again. As to the "The British created Concentration camps" baloney.......Lets put that record straight. A concentration camp is by definition a concentration of persons.....usually by forcible internment. What the tents in South Africa were very much not however, were part of a very deliberate and calculated, perverse, wicked mission to exterminate, permanently, with no remorse vast swathes of the Human race who did not conform to some twisted "Ideal". Ridiculous. As to Farber, Adonys etc......Jesus Christ. Some people are so apocalyptically effin stupid it is untrue. Since when (in A-holes case) was borderline Holocaust Denial deemed acceptable on this forum? Are you kidding me? In farbers case in particular, I am personally ashamed to call delusional imbeciles like this my fellow countrymen. They are as far as I am concerned* p*ssing on the graves of those who nobly kept them free, so that they can continue their preposterous, ludicrous rants. I bet they are so proud to be British! Aye, sure sounds* like it. Anyone who espouses or condones this outrageous twaddle is no true Briton, nor friend of mine. Out of here before I lose me temper. Again. 
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07-09-2012, 03:08 PM
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http://grapeinvestor.com/BoerWar/camps.html The English term "concentration camp" was first used to describe camps operated by the British in South Africa during this conflict. The camps had originally been set up by the British Army as "refugee camps" to provide refuge for civilian families who had been forced to abandon their homes for one or other reason related to the war. However, when Kitchener succeeded Roberts as commander-in-chief in South Africa in 29 November 1900, the British Army introduced new tactics in an attempt to break the guerrilla campaign and the influx of civilians grew dramatically as a result. Kitchener initiated plans to "flush out guerrillas in a series of systematic drives, organized like a sporting shoot, with success defined in a weekly 'bag' of killed, captured and wounded, and to sweep the country bare of everything that could give sustenance to the guerrillas, including women and children.... It was the clearance of civilians - uprooting a whole nation - that would come to dominate the last phase of the war." As Boer farms were destroyed by the British under their "Scorched Earth" policy - including the systematic destruction of crops and slaughtering of livestock, the burning down of homesteads and farms, and the poisoning of wells and salting of fields - to prevent the Boers from resupplying from a home base many tens of thousands of women and children were forcibly moved into the concentration camps. This was not the first appearance of internment camps. The Spanish had used internment in the Ten Years' War that later led to the Spanish-American War, and the United States had used them to devastate guerrilla forces during the Philippine-American War. But the Boer War concentration camp system was the first time that a whole nation had been systematically targeted, and the first in which some whole regions had been depopulated. Eventually, there were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64 for black Africans. Of the 28,000 Boer men captured as prisoners of war, 25,630 were sent overseas. The vast majority of Boers remaining in the local camps were women and children. Over 26,000 women and children were to perish in these concentration camps.
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07-09-2012, 03:41 PM
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The Germans used concentration camps in German South-West Africa during the Herero genocide between 1904 and 1907. The camp at Shark Island, Namibia was of the nature of an extermination camp, arguably the world's first.
The Herero and Namaqua Genocide is considered to have been the first genocide of the 20th century. It took place between 1904 and 1907 in German South-West Africa (modern day Namibia), during the scramble for Africa. On January 12, 1904, the Herero people, led by Samuel Maharero, rebelled against German colonial rule. In August, German general Lothar von Trotha defeated the Herero in the Battle of Waterberg and drove them into the desert of Omaheke, where most of them died of thirst. In October, the Nama people also rebelled against the Germans only to suffer a similar fate. In total, from 24,000 up to 100,000 Herero and 10,000 Nama died. The genocide was characterized by widespread death by starvation and thirst because the Herero who fled the violence were prevented from returning from the Namib Desert. Some sources also claim that the German colonial army systematically poisoned desert wells. In 1985, the United Nations' Whitaker Report classified the aftermath as an attempt to exterminate the Herero and Nama peoples of South-West Africa, and therefore one of the earliest attempts at genocide in the 20th century. The German government recognized and apologized for the events in 2004, but has ruled out financial compensation for the victims' descendants. |
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07-09-2012, 05:11 PM
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Thank you Al. I have raised these points before. Other "Inconvenient subjects" for the apologists are the German Policy of "Total War", and the Zeppelin and Gotha TERROR RAIDS of WWI, burning hundreds of British Women and Children alive with incendiary devices. Terribly rum bunch, these Huns.
Little wonder, then, that the British Public have little to no sympathy for what ensued. I stand with Harris (an RFC Fighter Ace, one whom can hardly be accused of cowardice). Harris was particularly moved as he surveyed the devastation wrought by Gotha and Zeppelin Bombers on the City of London in 1917-18. They bombed people indiscriminately, including my own Tyneside, Sunderland, and even Edinburgh and Glasgow too. Do we see a "pattern" emerging, here....or is it just me? "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind" . You kill 1000 of our Women and Children, we will do our utmost to kill 10 thousand of our Enemy. All is fair, in love and War. Hard lines. No sympathy. None. Zilch. Nada. Cry me a river. End of story. Last edited by RCAF_FB_Orville; 07-09-2012 at 05:17 PM. |
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