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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-30-2012, 09:12 PM
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I know it is frustrating for all of us including the developers, but as others have said this is a "BETA" . I you don't want to test it as such don't download and instal it. Black Six has already said to forum wait for the final release if you aren't happy. The main problem has been that the sim was released before it was really ready and there lies the start of all the complaints the developers are now getting. If we wish to see the final release of CoD in all it's glory we will all have to drink from the big bucket of patience.
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Old 06-30-2012, 10:51 PM
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The root of the problem may indeed be the early release. But there are so many outright shitty products on the market that people bought and buy these days - and instead demanding fixes they just buy the next generation product.

Maybe it's just a general generation problem.
While young people can just get over it and continue the older ones have issues with that sometimes. There are so many real life examples... I seriously must wonder how some people can tackle their lifes without going mad if one (out of probably thousands) buggy game is such a big deal for them.



The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.

What the game currently needs is most likely comprehensive bug reports. Without serious and well sturctured bug reports it won't get better. Ever.

Personally I don't have enough time right now for serious bug testing so I'm very thankful to the people who do so and report their findings in a constructive manner! Thanks for that
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:05 PM
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The way I see it, posting about this alone is not only a waste of time but costs more money than the whole game. By spending 10 hours here posting how bad the game is you could've easily made 50€ even by just cleaning toilets.
Whoa! Madfish this is a lightning of pure genius!

Cheers!
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:38 AM
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I'll have to partially agree with this:



even if i would phrase it in a bit less "pointy" manner, simply because a lot of people expect beta to be gameplay material.

In reality, alpha/beta means "you can test it if you want to and help me find what's wrong with it, but don't expect it to be flawless and final material".

A lot of people however will download the patch thinking it is finalised gameplay material and then they will of course be disappointed because it's not. By definition.

So, to answer the original poster's question. This patch is not meant to be the fix-all patch. It's just one step in the testing process of the fix-all patch. Cheers



That's a good try but, in the long, a wasted effort as you won't get through to them.... They'll read into what is posted what they want to read (regardless of what was posted) and their expectations will morph facts into fantasy (hence the OP)



TBH, there are better behaved children at the local kindegarten.....
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:23 AM
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That's a good try but, in the long, a wasted effort as you won't get through to them.... They'll read into what is posted what they want to read (regardless of what was posted) and their expectations will morph facts into fantasy (hence the OP)



TBH, there are better behaved children at the local kindegarten.....
I think we are stuck between a rock and a hard place here because even without the beta the game has bugs. I guess it's a down to which buggy game you prefer to play in the end. The awful stuttering from day one of the game, or the launcher exe crashes that I'm currently experiencing with this beta patch. That's not the best choices to have, but I'm sure you will find a way to disagree with that. But maybe that's the reason people don't think they have a choice other then to download the beta patch and try to make the best of a bad situation. Now I don't think that is morphing the facts into fantasy, do you?

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Old 07-01-2012, 04:02 AM
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OK..Im confused, Weve just been giving this BETA, now this so called BETA was supposed to be the magic patch was it not or am i missing something here? from what i have seen and read, this patch addressed nearly all issues hence why weve waited so dam long for it and listened to countless updates saying this is fixed, that is fixed but a couple of lil issues have stopped us releasing it..

the whole ''Weve think youve waited long enough'' sums it up...''Yes its here, finally'' we all thought

My first doubt was when i read something on the lines of 'FM not finished, loads more to do etc etc'' < What? Agiain might be me but were we not lead to believe that the FM's were pretty much complete, that statement does not back up that notion..

This patch has introduced loads of bugs again, more than the last patch but has gave us tracers a tweaked FM and for a lot of us a smoother game but that is it...CTD,LOD,TREES,HURRI etc etc etc ..See Bliss's report which pretty much sums it up...WHY did we WAIT so long for this patch people? this should of been another BETA a few weeks later or if it was to be longer dont try and sell it as 'the patch'

I dont understand why we keep getting these BETA's that are messing up things, reintroducing things while fixing 1 thing (exaggeration but you get my point)

They have presently 3d modelers etc working on a sequel..a lot of people can model Aircraft in that industry i would of thought...and im sure they are getting paid for their work?....SO why arnt they using that same money to employ more people to work on the basics and getting this game to work....I Map online with SP broke for the most part CTD's FPS issues FM issues etc etc isnt working, whatever planet you live on..you cant keep hiding behind the whole, ''what part of BETA dont you understand'' that is getting very old now and it looks like were keep getting these BETAS that are hyped up at first as 'the one' for a long time yet


dunno... you tell us Potnoodles (none, have been hyped up as "the one", except for those whose expectations took control of their comprehension skills)


TBH... there are better behaved children at the local kindegarten and they also have, it appears, much better comprehension skills, than the whingers here
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:01 AM
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I think we are stuck between a rock and a hard place here because even without the beta the game has bugs. I guess it's a down to which buggy game you prefer to play in the end. The awful stuttering from day one of the game, or the launcher exe crashes that I'm currently experiencing with this beta patch. That's not the best choices to have, but I'm sure you will find a way to disagree with that. But maybe that's the reason people don't think they have a choice other then to download the beta patch and try to make the best of a bad situation. Now I don't think that is morphing the facts into fantasy, do you?
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:00 AM
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Can somebody tell me why its taking so long to fix this sim. Been playing Rise of flight and we get great patches with new content all the time were kinda spoilt over there plus the devs talk to us and let us know whats going on. So why dosent it happen here.
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:10 AM
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That is a good question...hope you hear with an answer from the devs!...I think in... two weeks ...maybe?
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Old 07-01-2012, 11:13 AM
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Can somebody tell me why its taking so long to fix this sim. Been playing Rise of flight and we get great patches with new content all the time were kinda spoilt over there plus the devs talk to us and let us know whats going on. So why dosent it happen here.

Don't even go there mate, you will end up in a world of hurt, I was going to say more but it would make me a naughty boy.
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