CLOD features discussion and speculation (moved from Friday June 15-2012 update)

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

That obscure post #114 in a response to furbs on page 12 of a thread is not a sufficient warning. He did not state "what did and didn't make it into the final release" it was very vague in a response to clouds.

Nice try though.

Vague?

Hardly

Also Luithers reply in that post was NOT limited to frubs post.. I think if you read Luithers post again you will see it applies to all features mentioned prior to the release.

Which as I pointed out before, 'typically' goes without saying, but in light of some of the special members of this forum, Clearly Luither felt it had to be said for the special people of this forum

Hope that helps S!

PS per Phat's notice/request.. I recomend we take this to PM, assuming you have any more questions that need answering! S!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

PS per Phat's notice/request.. I recomend we take this to PM, assuming you have any more questions that need answering! S!

No need for pm's. We can see clearly from Luthier's post he didn't state what would or would not make it into the sim as you stated. I didn't see AI, no radio commands, Ainti epliepsy filter, trees you could fly through, etc. etc.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Force10

No need for pm's.

Ah good glad I could help! S!

Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Your wait is over..

Luither said this about a month before the RU release of CoD..



link http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=114

Hope this helps!

It's helpful, but ambiguous. At no point does he make any suggestion towards features which will be omitted, and as has been pointed out, there is no list of omitted features.

It's a post which people need reminding about though, but doesn't answer the question for the simple fact that Oleg talked of features which were never really discussed again. A map builder, which looked finished - for instance - which many took for granted would just be included.

Anyway, enough of this now. thanks for bringing this post up, as it was a good read

[bongodriver]

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

Bingo!

[Force10]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

We know that nothing specific was said. "Someone" here was telling us they did say what would and wouldn't be in the release. I'm not sure who said it....let me look....Oh, here ya go.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

I seem to recall a post in this forum just prior to release that stated what did and didn't make it into the final release

I guess we should have just considered the source and known it was fictitious.

[Lexicon]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

Hello,

Something I dont really get though. What was Luthier's (1C) purpuse to show all those WIP things if in the end he did not have the intention or capabilty
to put it in the game ? Even as a patch ?

Sorry but I dont understand the reasons why...

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Lexicon

Hello,

Something I dont really get though. What was Luthier's (1C) purpuse to show all those WIP things if in the end he did not have the intention or capabilty
to put it in the game ? Even as a patch ?

Sorry but I dont understand the reasons why...

Well I'm not sure where the idea that he has no 'intention' or 'capability' comes from, i think the 'long term' aim is to put everything showcased into the series, we may not see it all in COD but I believe new stuff will come with each new addition to the series which will also bring COD up to the same level....you know....just like the old IL2 series.

COD needs to be fixed first as it forms the engine for the new titles with the new features.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

WOW.....how are people not getting that the 'ambiguity' is the reason there is no list, the whole point was to say that 'everything' is under review.....as in anything you could care to list is included in the 'blanket' statement.

You miss the point: there are two sagas to the development of CloD as we know it (by that I mean the current DX version of the game):
-the original, pre announcement, updates by Oleg
-the updates, post announcement, by both Oleg and Luthier. (By announcement I mean the first ones with shots over shrek Island)

Luthier's comment was about what he had spoken about: thus the second category. Everything Oleg spoke about and showed in the first saga was either tangible, or treated as a given feature. For instance, he said X would be in the game, and this was never spoken of again.

The ambiguity in question is what Luthier is actually referring to. It's very easy to assume he meant the whole saga of CloD, but really if you were to travel back to the time when Furbs asked that question, it's very likely the previous 'promises' had escaped their attention, and they were thus talking about everything that was in the limelight post announcement.
Features like the map-builder, as I said, were treated as a given to appear in the game. Luthier may have made a post somewhere within a 70 page update topic to say this feature might not be included, but it certainly doesn't support any claim that a feature by feature list of what's not included every surfaced.

And certainly due to the ambiguity which I clearly emphasised, and which Luthier's comment doesn't do justice to, there is every reason for someone to feel misled.

I honestly don't feel the team did intend to mislead at all. However, given that they are working on a sequel already, it poses the question of when these features will be added in. I'd certainly sooner see an SDK and map builder than another scrap in an area I don't care about.