Pre-Purchase DCS P-51 Now!

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

I'm pretty sure the DCS game engine was totally revamped during the development of the A-10C.

Revamped yes.. but not Replaced as is the case in IL-2 vs. CoD.

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

The landscape certainly does look dated compared to either CloD or RoF,

Agreed 100%

But it still looks good IMHO! More than good enough for a flight sim IMHO, but CoD has planes to do more than just flight.

Originally Posted by 159th_Jester

but the engine itself isn't as old as some are saying.

Sorry if that is the impression you got from 'me' because that was not my intent. Even IL-2 got a few 'revamps' over the past 10+ years.. But the 'core' of it has not changed. The point I was making is it is much easier to add 'one' plane to an existing game engine. Which is what DCS has done with the P51. It is much Much MUCH harder to do what 1C is doing with CoD where everything is 'new'.. The planes, the maps, the graphics, the AI, the FM, the DM, etc.

In short sorry if I offended any die hard DCS users and or mods who post here.. That was not my intent, I simply wanted to put into prospective the difference between adding 'one' plane to an existing game engine and starting from scratch with a new game engine

[SiThSpAwN]

Shouldnt be sorry, that is what ED is going for, a base game that is easy to add "modules" to, meaning planes, maps etc... That is their goal and we now see it coming to light. That said, they have a revamped graphics engine coming down the piple line as well....

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by SiThSpAwN

Shouldnt be sorry, that is what ED is going for, a base game that is easy to add "modules" to, meaning planes, maps etc... That is their goal and we now see it coming to light. That said, they have a revamped graphics engine coming down the piple line as well....

Note I am not sorry about what ED is doing.. I think it is great! I know they have been trying to pull togther all thier products into one for some time now, this DCS world thing looks real good! What I was sorry for is if I ofended any of the DCS mods and or users who post here.. That was not my intent, I was simply pointing out to thsoe who are trying to use the DCS P51 as a way to beat up on CoD the difference in effort required to add 'one' plane to an existing game engine vs starting from scratch

[SiThSpAwN]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Note I am not sorry about what ED is doing.. I think it is great! I know they have been trying to pull togther all thier products into one for some time now, this DCS world thing looks real good! What I was sorry for is if I ofended any of the DCS mods and or users who post here.. That was not my intent, I was simply pointing out to thsoe who are trying to use the DCS P51 as a way to beat up on CoD the difference in effort required to add 'one' plane to an existing game engine vs starting from scratch

The sim community is so touchy arent they

decided to see where one could go with that nice new cockpit of the p51`s pit. more light and some ageing. increased cannopy relfection also not seen here makes u feel inside the cockpit.

[159th_Jester]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Sorry if that is the impression you got from 'me' because that was not my intent.

No apologies needed from what I've seen. As it is, my comment was certainly not aimed at any other poster in this thread specifically, but rather simply input on the topic under discussion.

I agree with you that what ED are trying to do is easier than creating a complete new product from scratch.

I'd also say that whilst making aircraft models as "plug-ins" for an existing envronment and game engine is potentially an excellent business model, it's not without it's dangers...... Some of which are highlighted in posts on this forums regarding the P-51: The plane is great..... But what can you do with it?

ED need to be very careful about how they plan their releases to avoid them ending up with a sim with a whole load of aircraft modelled in the highes detail that have no relation to each other. While flying a Spitfire or P-51 against FW-190's or Bf-109's is immersive, flying them against Su-25's is not no matter how realistic the aircraft model may be.

[msalama]

But what can you do with it?

Not much... yet But to my understanding there's a 3rd-party FW190 and a B17 in the works already.

there is a natural succesor to FSX 3rd party involvment in flightsims now. and one not so dissimilar to MS FLight. free to play base package with payware updates. except with ED u can rely on the best of the best.

what can you do with the p51 ? alot more than you can in Ms Flight. so yeah you can learn to fly a plane. for me its not just about the war. and comms do work

this was my first online sesh in p51 last night (inc my texture updates)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DyoSFrLmHk

now lets see was this better than the 101 hours spent in CLod. yes definetly so and including the crash. thats plane crash not desktop. forgive me but ive waited and waited, sorry 1C you just got trumped at your own game.

[Ctrl E]

Hi Guys. Strongly recommend you get the beta for the DCS P-51. It's absolutely fantastic. i've never played a "full switch" fsx type game before but am absoutely loving the workload of managing everything in the cockpit.

and the modelling just feels perfect. you really have to fight the aircraft to keep it steady under certain circumstances. and the sound of the 6x .50 cals is awesome (ricocheting tracers too).

go have a look. there's some new pix up of B-17s and FW-190 Ai being developed.

The more the sim and modding community support it the quicker the WWII/korean senarios will develop.

[SharpeXB]

It looks interesting but unless it's a period WWII environment it's a no sale to me. The idea of putting the plane in a modern setting makes as much sense as an A-10 flying over WWI trenches. With the right environment the sim could be outstanding.