Aircraft Videos and Images

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by DroopSnoot

Awwww, cute. Look at the little toy P40 that they given the crew member on the right to ride on

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

Unfortunately the warbirds archaeology and restoration business is a ruthless one: this wreck surely bears a lot of importance for the fact that is a very rare thing to find such a time capsule,but there are a million ways this thing could be handled wrong. The leaking of pictures and videos on the Internet is an example of how things could be handled wrong. I don't know yet whats gonna happen to this wreck,and even if it looks complete,it would be a shame to restore it to flying conditions,since you would still have to take it apart completely and re-build most of it,losing much of the original material,only to bring back to the skies a not so rare warbird.
As I said,I hope that it will be taken to a museum and exposed as it was found,since this is a proper archaeological find,not a restorable barn find.

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I really like when wrecks are displayed in museums like they where found. They had a Gladiator in the RAF museum at Hendon when I was there in the 80:ies that looked just like when it was pulled out of a lake in Finland... I guess it's still there and it was much more interesting than a restored one. Put a patch of sand and rock at Hendon and show this baby just as it looks on the videos and it will have lots of people looking at it

/mazex

[AKA_Tenn]

I'd like to see a spit or a p40 or any plane like that with no skin, just the skeleton, so its easy to see all the electronics and cables and such...

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by AKA_Tenn

I'd like to see a spit or a p40 or any plane like that with no skin, just the skeleton, so its easy to see all the electronics and cables and such...

well most WW2 planes are a monocoque design, so you can't really "skin" them, they would just bend and break. Some have their panels partially removed or cut to show the inside structure though, you can find them in several museums.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

As I said,I hope that it will be taken to a museum and exposed as it was found,since this is a proper archaeological find,not a restorable barn find.

On the other hand, today, 70 years later, it's not exactly in the same condition it was when it went down. So, what is it you want to show? The power of sandstorms?
You could as well part it out or restore it.

Or build one friggin huge diorama in a museum(is that realistic?).

[AKA_Tenn]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

well most WW2 planes are a monocoque design, so you can't really "skin" them, they would just bend and break. Some have their panels partially removed or cut to show the inside structure though, you can find them in several museums.

just weld it all to a steel bar or something?

[taildraggernut]

Originally Posted by AKA_Tenn

just weld it all to a steel bar or something?

Weld aluminium to steel? good luck with that.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

Weld aluminium to steel? good luck with that.

Actually, you can - an aircraft company developed a process which made it possible - although it's super complex and only done by robots.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by swiss

On the other hand, today, 70 years later, it's not exactly in the same condition it was when it went down. So, what is it you want to show? The power of sandstorms?
You could as well part it out or restore it.

Or build one friggin huge diorama in a museum(is that realistic?).

It isn't, but it's in remarkably well preserved and complete conditions, modifying or changing any part of it would be a crime. It should be treated like an archaeological find, because that's what it is, and should be cleaned and preserved in its conditions. Once again, we're not looking at a rare warbird, but finding one so complete after so many years is a proper rare (if not unique) thing. It should get cleaned and go in a diorama as you said, like this P-40 here, found in shallow waters in Italy





http://forum.tantopergioco.it/discus...-delle-orme/p1

Originally Posted by AKA_Tenn

just weld it all to a steel bar or something?

you wouldn't be able to that easily, it's the design of the thing that is meant to be covered with "structural skin", so even if you created a framework of steel, it would be so big that it would detract from the original looks. Monocoque construction was meant to make lighter planes, but it also meant a more structurally fragile airframe.

[Sutts]

I wonder if we have any Egyptians among our ranks? Would love to hear what those guys in the vids are saying.