Friday Update, April 13, 2012

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Moggy

I provided them with the pilot's notes, the FAA 1943 training film "Fleet Fighter" and a few snippets of data (mainly for startup procedures) for the Hurricane Mk.I. I just pray that they didn't use the performance data as I seem to remember they were for the fixed pitch prop and Hurricane Mk.Is when used\transported by the ATA (87 octane fuel).

Sorry Moggy, just to make sure I understand correctly what you wrote, you gave them the performace data for the Hurricane Mk.I and you pray they did not use the data (you gave to them)?

If you did not give them the performance data for the Hurricane Mk.I then, where were these Hurricane Mk.I performance data you are referring to?

~S~

[klem]

Originally Posted by Moggy

I provided them with the pilot's notes, the FAA 1943 training film "Fleet Fighter" and a few snippets of data (mainly for startup procedures) for the Hurricane Mk.I. I just pray that they didn't use the performance data as I seem to remember they were for the fixed pitch prop and Hurricane Mk.Is when used\transported by the ATA (87 octane fuel).

Oh and I'm not Sean.

After all the discussion and WWII-contemporary links/data they been given I'd be surprised if they got it wrong (ermmm.. again). However I don't recall anything to say they would be makng a 100 octane model yet, I thought not so long ago they said they wouldn't. NO! Don't start a discussion, lets wait and see. It can only be a matter of days now <praying>.

[Moggy]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

Sorry Moggy, just to make sure I understand correctly what you wrote, you gave them the performace data for the Hurricane Mk.I and you pray they did not use the data (you gave to them)?

If you did not give them the performance data for the Hurricane Mk.I then, where were these Hurricane Mk.I performance data you are referring to?

~S~

You actually copied and pasted the reason why I sent in the data but I will reiterate again. The reasons why I sent in the data was for procedural purposes of the Hurricane Mk.I start up, in game we're currently using the start up of the Hurricane Mk.II. The fuel pumps in the Hurricane Mk.I did not start to operate until after engine had started, you had to start the Hurricane using the gravity (or reserve) tank. After startup, you would then switch tanks to main. Pilots would sometimes forget to switch tanks, take off on reserve and eventually have an unexpected engine stoppage (due to the gravity tank running out of fuel), it was called a "Gravity Charlie". This was changed later in the Hurricane Mk.II and they could start their engine on main.
The data I sent in also had some information not relating to the Battle of Britain Hurricane but earlier models.

Hope this clears things up for you.

Oh and if you want to...you can simulate a Gravity Charlie yourself. What you do is select the reserve tank before start up, switch the fuel gauge to either the port or starboard (both are main) tank. Take off and fly around for a while. After a bit (I flew from Tangmere along the coast and got as far as Ramsgate) your engine will start to cough and eventually stop but your fuel gauge says you have plenty of fuel. Pilots would often believe they had engine failure but in fact it was a Gravity Charlie.

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by No145_Hatter

Supporting Crystal Palace is Osprey's problem.

As much as I hate West Ham and will laugh at fat crook Allerdyce when they flop in the playoffs, that 6-0 thrashing of the Seaweed last week made me laugh rather a lot

Now, enjoy your time at the moment. As Brighty recently said, there are teachers and pupils - when will BHA ever learn?

[Osprey]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

This is where RoF has the edge. The planes do not blend or disappear 500m from you.

No, they turn into mini 5 pixel X-wings which stay the same size regardless of how far away they are. It's rubbish.

[No145_Hatter]

So much for the lucky heather Gus bought at Selhurst...

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Osprey

No, they turn into mini 5 pixel X-wings which stay the same size regardless of how far away they are. It's rubbish.

It's still better if we have to fight... it's rubbish if our priority is to make screenshot at our plane and silly things.

So from these two I choose the ROF's one all the day. Of course both are not right.

The Insuber's episode is an example of why I don't fly IL2 anymore...

[Kurfürst]

I did test the Hurricane Mk I and the Spitfire II today. It seems further adjustments are necessary, as the update does not mention any tweaks in rolls rates.

The Hurricane rolls 1.5 times slower than it should at 400 mph IAS.
The Spitfire IIa rolls 3.2 times faster than it should at 400 mph IAS.

I did not test the rest but it seems likely that its true for the other Spits and Hurris too.

See my findings and the original documents here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...30&postcount=6

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

I did test the Hurricane Mk I and the Spitfire II today. It seems further adjustments are necessary, as the update does not mention any tweaks in rolls rates.

The Hurricane rolls 1.5 times slower, the Spitfire II (and probably all Spitfires and Hurricanes) rolls 3.2 times faster than it should at high speed

See my findings and the original documents here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...30&postcount=6

How can the Hurricane roll both faster and slower?

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

I did test the Hurricane Mk I and the Spitfire II today. It seems further adjustments are necessary, as the update does not mention any tweaks in rolls rates.

The Hurricane rolls 1.5 times slower, the Spitfire II (and probably all Spitfires and Hurricanes) rolls 3.2 times faster than it should at high speed

See my findings and the original documents here: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...30&postcount=6

So the hurri now rolls too fast or too slow? Dont get me wrong i am a friend of nerfs/boosts as long as they are somewhat plausible but you once write the hurri rolls slower and in the following sentence it rolls 3,2 times too fast?

Winger