Friday Update, March 30, 2012

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by machoo

I'm not a troll. I have both games and I'm telling you World Of Planes is better , you can disagree but you people have to stop going on about 'COD is the king and every other game is crap' . And I'm not an arcade fan , I have spent thousands on simulator hardware.

Dear machoo, imho it is neither polite nor clever to come to the forum of 1C only to say in a very assured and direct way (and several times in a row) that the Gaijin simulator is *better* than theirs.
And because you speak about your personal preference, you should either refrain to post it - this thread is not meant to express your personal preferences - or substantiate your statement with hard facts. And a video from the beta means nothing, in that respect.

If you insist with your posting style you can be easily mistaken for a troll (see the technical definition of "troll" I posted earlier), because you behave as one.

Cheers,
Insuber

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by machoo

I'm not a troll. I have both games and I'm telling you World Of Planes is better , you can disagree but you people have to stop going on about 'COD is the king and every other game is crap' . And I'm not an arcade fan , I have spent thousands on simulator hardware.

Machoo, you are free to make a new thread about the game, as others did succesfully before. It was a mistake to post it here.

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by albx

CEM? where is? only overheating is modelled right now... so stop

You miss the mixture management, the prop pitch = engine revs, the water and oil radiator management, just to mention a couple of CEM items. Before criticizing something next time, take the pain to check your information, really.

[addman]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Machoo, you are free to make a new thread about the game, as others did succesfully before. It was a mistake to post it here.

I have to agree with carguy here, move this stuff to the crystal ball, it's clearly OT. Last post from me here, I'm out!

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by banned

Umm carguy, what challenge did I accept?

Dunno about you specifically, but I`m surprised that people even accept the obvious taunt about WoP being better. So far only thin we know about it is what we saw. And we saw some nice, outdated, but nice graphics.

Even if WoP had nicer graphics, it still wouldn`t change a thing. In sim department, Cliffs of Dover is a different quality class overall.

Why you need to argue about graphics is beyond me.

[banned]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Dunno about you specifically, but I`m surprised that people even accept the obvious taunt about WoP being better. So far only thin we know about it is what we saw. And we saw some nice, outdated, but nice graphics.

Even if WoP had nicer graphics, it still wouldn`t change a thing. In sim department, Cliffs of Dover is a different quality class overall.

Why you need to argue about graphics is beyond me.

Oh ok. I see what you mean. I just logged on and saw that video and the comment that it was competition for CoD. I don't get much time to look through the forum so I didn't see where all this originated. I work full time, the wife is in afghanistan with the war and I'm looking after the two kids. Probably good in a way or I'll be on here every minute of the day lol.
Sorry carguy that you thought I was jumping in on some argument about graphics.

[stndbfrgrn]

Originally Posted by Opitz

Do you think they will put AA and new clouds in BoM "simulator" finally?

I don't know if you're trying to push me somehow, but this kind of question should be asked to the developers; again, there is quite a deep difference between the way a simulator and a game are conceived.
And guys, this WOP's assumed superiority thing is really getting off topic here, so please, as it's been suggested, let's be polite and discuss it into a dedicated thread.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Even if WoP had nicer graphics, it still wouldn`t change a thing. In sim department, Cliffs of Dover is a different quality class overall.

Wow, yet another example of speculation being stated as fact!
Whilst one can guess that WoP won't be equal to CloD in simulation terms, there is no tangible evidence to suggest this at all. What can history show? If we went by history, we'd have imagined that CloD would have been the holy grail of flight-sims.

And previously in this topic you said: "But IF you look for graphics only, WoP might be your game" which clearly contrasts your most recent speculation that WoP's graphics are outdated. Make your mind up man!

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Wow, yet another example of speculation being stated as fact!
Whilst one can guess that WoP won't be equal to CloD in simulation terms, there is no tangible evidence to suggest this at all. What can history show? If we went by history, we'd have imagined that CloD would have been the holy grail of flight-sims.

Speculation about WoP, yes. About CloD, no.

And previously in this topic you said: "But IF you look for graphics only, WoP might be your game" which clearly contrasts your most recent speculation that WoP's graphics are outdated. Make your mind up man!

No contrast here, unless you`re single-minded. Graphics being outdated obviously don`t turn some people from promoting it as "better" than CloD. It is a matter of taste. It is clearly visible that WoP uses a different color palette, makes some things less-detailed (like the cockpits) and some things more detailed (like the landscape). Obviously some people find it enough of a reason to speculate about WoP being "better" than CloD overall. By now all we can say about WoP is that it can be pretty to some, especially those who can`t live without posting daily something negative about CloD`s landscape.

So if that eye-candy of a beta game suits you more than any other spect of CloD, it`s your kind of game.

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Insuber

You miss the mixture management, the prop pitch = engine revs, the water and oil radiator management, just to mention a couple of CEM items. Before criticizing something next time, take the pain to check your information, really.

Mhm... almost all of those are in IL2 too... the difference is in CLoD there's no OVERHEAT alert.

IMO BoM will demostrate the complexity of this new engine. Somebody said that the russian pilots had to manage multiple levels to do the same thing that a german pilot could do with only one.

Now IF russian planes will work as the german planes than this will be proof that this COMPLEX Engine Management is an hoax.

My dream is to have a compulsory procedure at startup having to follow the machine's condition during the flight. I hope that in future I will have to manage the startup/taxi/takeoff of my tempest as Clostermann did.