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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes, will buy this. 55 58.51%
OK, if for free. 21 22.34%
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:55 PM
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The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.
I used to subscribe to that viewpoint.

But situations change. What worked and was an appropriate strategy four months ago may not be the correct approach now.

When it was merely 'the usual suspects' making the noises, keeping tight-lipped may have been a good approach. But I genuinely think that the situation is different now. It is very natural for people to want news on progress of the patch and the plans for COD's development and I believe the devs risk alienating a lot of their core support if they maintain the same no-communication approach.

I'm also genuinely at a loss for a reason why they can't not tell us some carefully picked bits of info. They could have nipped this in the bud long ago by being a bit more savvy.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:00 PM
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The main problem is that they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. If they don't release info, they have today's situation: A buttload of bitching, whining and ranting on the boards.

But when they DO release info, it's more of the same since people's pet problem/issue isn't on the list.

Until people learn patience, this will go on. And sadly, I don't think people are able to learn patience.
Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:00 PM
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prepare your bank account because i Think that the one of manu will be the politic of almost all our wing

It pulls stronger a hair of simulator than a pair of oxen, for those like us ... You will buy like addicts and fight for the last copy in the shop, if the game is any good ...
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:05 PM
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Whose fault is that? Who are the ones that sold us a nonfunctional product? Who are the ones that purchased a defective product on faith it would be made better in the future?

Everybody acts like we owe the devs a favor when in fact they owe us big time.
Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy it. If you don't have the foresight to expect issues in something as ambitious as this, then you shouldn't buy it in the first place.

Caveat Emptor. Pure and simple.

Will I personally be a bit more interested in reading what others has to say about the expansionpack before I buy it? Hell yes. Does that mean I'll go off on a rampage when/if an eventual buy blows up in my face? No. It means I'll notch it up as yet another bad usage of $50, and leave it at that.

Does the Devs owe us? Maybe. But patience is a virtue that's a DAMN rare commodity these days, and these forums are a damn good example of just that. Hell, people here are even more rabid than MMO'ers, and that's saying something.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:11 PM
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Wow, I seem to have gone from being a certified hater to a fan boy in one simple posting!

I'm not optimistic at all. See my post. I think the team really need to pull their fingers out.

But at the same time, they really aren't monkeying around and eating bananas. (maybe drinking vodka.) As I said, it's their business: their income, and they are in no position to play with people and childishly aim to annoy the community.
The community is the backbone of the game, and they must realise that it's reaching braking point.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:13 PM
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I am pretty shure that everybody saying he/she/it wont buy the sequel, or anything from 1c/MG, is either a troll, not doing any wwii combat-flightsimming anyway, or used to lie to himself!
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:23 PM
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It pulls stronger a hair of simulator than a pair of oxen, for those like us ... You will buy like addicts and fight for the last copy in the shop, if the game is any good ...
LOOOL perhaps your right, but seeing how much the sim is considered now in our wing it has to be not only any good, but clearly good.


btw is it an international way of saying or is it a perfectly hilarious translation?
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:29 PM
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all the discussion is useless, coz if the next patch comes out, the patchthread will be go over 40 pages, how awesome the patch and 1C are...
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i think if they had good news they would be extremely willing to tell. The pressure is high on them and they would love to give us something to cheer us up. They know they have to give results and of course they want to. They want to make everyone happy, because a happy customer makes them happy too. I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.
I second that!

I'm not a computer programmer/games developer but I'm sure that it's often not possible to know how long it's going to take to complete a project/programme change that is bug-free.

I remember being involved in the switcging of our accounting system from one programme to another - it was scary! I would tell the boss that we'd be ready in 2 days time - something would go wrong and set us 4 days back etc etc.

I think that we must remain patient - I'm sure that Luthier & his team are doing their best to get things done.

Just please keep the comments polite chaps!
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:38 PM
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I don't get all this complaining, personally I am having a great time flying this sim and have learned to deal with it's current issues. I'm thankful that I at least get to fly what we have and that I'm not still waiting for the game to be released.

This is a cutting edge sim, with talented people working to make it better everyday, and I'd much rather they be working towards our next patch than appeasing the people on here that are complaining because they didn't get it 100% perfect on the first attempt.
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