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Old 03-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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That IS an interesting story.
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Default Historical Preservation

What is the state of Russian and Ukraine law on export of war relics? I saw other videos on youtube that depict persons digging up battlefields, war dead, and other material (including vast amounts of land mines and unexploded shells). I saw one video where someone was using heavy construction cranes and large earth movers. This is not something that is typically used to carefully excavate any historical artifacts (at least not by professionals). In fact they probably destroyed or broke any artifacts they dug up.

Is there any effort to preserve these historic artifacts within the country or has capitalist greed made exporting history the "new" economy? Also, is there any discussions to preserve battlefields from these private ventures? Are there legal battles in various courts over these issues?

I would be interested to hear thoughts from those in Russia as well as any of the other former Soviet Republics.
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:50 PM
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Interesting story - reminds me of my granddad. He was captured in 1943 IIRC and imprisoned in a camp near Kiev. He managed to escape, together with a bunch of comrades and walked (!!!) all the way back to the German lines.
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Thank you for sharing!

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Last I heard JME is no more, which is sad as it was an Aladdins Cave of amazing aircraft.

Apparently the 190 was sabotaged, they found blue material stuffed in the fuel system when they dismantled it.

I was lucky enough to sit in that 190, it looked amazing, like it just rolled off the production lines. Mind you it was still in primer, but climbing into that cockpit and rolling the canopy shut really got my heart racing.
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:52 AM
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Last I heard JME is no more, which is sad as it was an Aladdins Cave of amazing aircraft.
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Yeah JME closed, they were restoring the 190 for some corporate high flyer from Microsoft.

Last I heard it was being shipped backed to Seattle.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:20 PM
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What is the state of Russian and Ukraine law on export of war relics?
Probably made on a daily basis, depending on the exchange rate of the US$.
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[QUOTE=BadAim;38524]I've read several stories of pilots taking the clock when they diched, I believe there was a shortage of clocks in the luftwaffe for some time and it was standard procedure to grab the clock if there was time.(no pun intended)

Take the clock ? I would take the compass !

I remember I've read that Soviet pilots were also instructed to take the clock after crash land.
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