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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-27-2012, 11:40 AM
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Problem is, and I am quite certain few people have realized that, there is no way for a quick fix as the gfx engine is the root cause and only the new engine will fix it. This is the crux ... and no amount of (justified) indignation will make it go away quicker.
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Please try the .bat file I link to. It clears the cache folder and starts CloD. sukhoi.ru guys also restart game after each flight which prevents launcher crash for 1-1.5 hours. Enough for a good coop
I already do that and I appreciate your support in this, Ataros. Neverthless that is a problem that imho needs to be tackled soon, because you never really know when it hits you and you can set up a great flight, circle over the airfield, gather up, fly to target and then all of a sudden the game is gone. With the rest of the issues I can happily live until the patch comes, whenever that is.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:47 AM
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So fix it. Take everybody off the "sequel" until this is done.
You are aware that taking 3D modellers off the sequel will achieve nothing for coding fixes? Gosh, people, justified indignation is one thing but putting on blinders is another ...
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:52 AM
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More concerning, no comment any more about the complete graphics model overhaul (which was the cause for not creating an intermediary patch).
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Luthier did address the graphics overhaul.....

"Graphics are virtually complete. Almost all of the newly introduced bugs are squashed. There are lots of other improvements."

"The engine still has some problems".


Looks promising to me.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:53 AM
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Why don't you post the link where we can get our money back, hmm?
UBIsoft is the international publisher. Please contact them @ ubi.com
This site belongs to 1C which is a publisher for Russia only. MG/Softclub are developers only, they are not involved in sales. They are paid by publishers only and are supposed to report to publishers only.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:56 AM
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So fix it. Take everybody off the "sequel" until this is done.




Spoken like someone who has my $50 and I have your unfinished game.

And you need to learn some manners when addressing customers of many years standing.

Why don't you post the link where we can get our money back, hmm?
Just take your game and throw it into a bin and file it under "lesson learned". I paid 70€ for my special edition. Am I happy? No, for sure not.
Am I a destructive entitlement junkie who had to register on this forum under a different alias just to put my pile of human digestion constantly highjacking threads here? Neither.

If Luthier and team require another year to get this game going, then so be it. I will then treat it as if it was only released by then and treat the current sitiuation like participating in an open beta. That is something I can live with it. If you can't, sell your copy and leave.
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:57 AM
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Just take your game and throw it into a bin and file it under "lesson learned". I paid 70€ for my special edition. Am I happy? No, for sure not.
Am I a destructive entitlement junkie that had to regisiter on this forum under a diferent alias just to put my pile of human digestion constantly highjacking threads here? Neither.

If Luthier and team require another year to get this game going, then so be it. I will then treat it as if it was only released by then and treat the current sitiuation like participating in an open beta. That is something I can live with it. If you can't, sell your copy and leave.
Beautifully said....
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bongo, when I read that it takes a year or more to develop one plane, I just can't think of Maddox Games as an efficient team, sorry.

Again, I'm not questioning the skills of the people involved, I'm wondering if you realise that once you take out of the equation all the things that might affect such a slow progress, the only two options left are improper resource managing and still working on an unstable game coding.
At first read, the "one year work-hour" seems a lot for me too, but do not forget that the aircraft making not only for modeling. It should also be programmed to operate, which I think is much more difficult task. Each (e-a-c-h!) on-board system to understand and programming it's intact and damaged functioning. If they interact, its more complicated. This is a huge job. Especially the bomber aircrafts. I do not know the ratios, but be sure that the modeling in less time..

I agree with that SNAFU and Krupi, compared to the ROF the 3D complexity, and the CEM far better in clod (It is also true that there are flaws, no question). But IMHO the ROF CEM, FM, DM and graphic engine somewhere between the Il-2UP and Clod (yes, i had that games too)...
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Am I a destructive entitlement junkie that had to regisiter on this forum under a diferent alias just to put my pile of human digestion constantly highjacking threads here? Neither.
Yea, sometimes they are coming back to do more damage. I am sure the mods will take care of them.
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I'm not sure some of you understand that there is only one IL2 engine - there's no such thing as working on the CloD engine or working on the BoM engine.

Fix the engine and both products immediately benefit as they both use it. That's why I have no issue at all with them working on both in tandem. Good things will spill over into CloD as development of BoM progresses.
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