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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:09 AM
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Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc
I prefer the IL-2 way of just making a 'theater' expansion rather than selling everything 'piecemeal'.
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:32 AM
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We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels. For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD
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Luthier - And to make sure to drive my main point across. We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches. My answers about things in the sequel were meant for those specific features. Please don't try to read between the lines!
I do not have a problem with this. If you dont want to move on and pay for the sequel -fine so be it. After Oleg left and the Sim was forced out by the those with the money, it was a mess. But I think they have done a lot to improve and finetune the game. No its not there yet, where its done, but with small staps we are getting closer every patch. But I belive they will make it at least stabile before the the sequel and the major changes and improvements / fixes will come with it.

Whatever you and me like it or not, they have to make money for a compani and themself. And thats why it is in the sequel you will see the huge changes.

Personally, I look forward to and buy the sequel, I will not complain all the time but give developers some credit for what they have already achieved. Constructive kretik often leads to positive changes in how to cry only leads to a negative atmosphere. What about you?

Merry Christmas to everybody
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:34 AM
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here, you'll want this with your wine

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Old 12-24-2011, 11:36 AM
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grathos, good post

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Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc
jesus no. i like RoF but doing this would mean that having online scenarios with unusual plane sets would be a rare occurence, as few would buy it an you'd have to have the common planes (spits or 109s) on every single god damn map. and if they did the field mod thing (for factory fitted things like the bloody aldis on the SE5a)... i would be livid.
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:38 AM
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I prefer the IL-2 way of just making a 'theater' expansion rather than selling everything 'piecemeal'.
But the ROF system is very solid, they only have to sell 2 planes for players every year, to continue the support!!!
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:41 PM
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Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc
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I prefer the IL-2 way of just making a 'theater' expansion rather than selling everything 'piecemeal'.
I love Rise of Flight and I have bought all the planes, but I think that type of business model sucks … I would rather pay for a theater expansion than pay for everything piecemeal. I’m glad I only paid 12.50 for COD, after about 3 hours I removed it from my hard drive, lets hope they get there $hit together with the sequel, I was looking forward to COD for such a long time ... it was a real disappointment.

Looking forward to the sequel; please don’t release it before its ready.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:10 PM
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I love Rise of Flight and I have bought all the planes, but I think that type of business model sucks … I would rather pay for a theater expansion than pay for everything piecemeal. I’m glad I only paid 12.50 for COD, after about 3 hours I removed it from my hard drive, lets hope they get there $hit together with the sequel, I was looking forward to COD for such a long time ... it was a real disappointment.

Looking forward to the sequel; please don’t release it before its ready.
Thats why is better the model bussines of ROF, they have the resources to improve the game, Luthier team does not have the resources, thats why the sim is poorly finished.

I dislike the model business, but it is much effective and I love the simulator in special WW2 and I dont want my IL-2 die some day.
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Old 12-24-2011, 02:26 PM
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Theres a reason for instrumenting a plane for test..
That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on.
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:10 PM
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If you read my post chivas nowhere do I suggest that they are abandoning COD and the last two paragraphs of my post were taken from Luthiers post that you Quote. He is also stating that the replys from him were on specific questions put to him with regards to extras for COD. If you also read the first "Quote" Luthier states that any improvements will come with the sequels as in PF and 46 where improvements to graphics etc will come as part of the paid for sequels. This if he is telling us the truth and says that the patch won't be released prior to the release of the sequel, then let him explain in more detail when the patch to correct the failures of the current release will come. Will it be as a free patch? or will it be part of the sequel to be merged with COD as in Il2 PF and 46 (which will mean we pay again to fix their problem) as suggested in his first quote.
as long as they fix the flight models that were bungled do to political correctness the first time around... (bungled is being kind..) they get a great Kudos' for what they got right...
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:23 PM
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Don't talk yourself into a mindset. It will just mess up your thinking.

IL2 was very playable online and we had a constant barrage of patches.

IL2 had issues that did not resolve until Forgotten Battles released.

So yeah, we did have a paid sequel "all inclusive" addon that made everything right.

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