Friday Update, Q&A - December 23, 2011

[addman]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

ok best estimate (with knowledge and considering recent history)

through (lets say) repairing CLOD it leaves content as the key aspect of BFM. with this in mind and given all possibly that could go wrong. 2 years very max and thats conservative estimate.

However it depends how they are going about there business, of which only they can inform.

i forsee the major overhaul for CLOD appearing within 6-12 months. and leaving various months there after to create new content with BFM in mind. ofcourse im probally wrong.

They can't possibly have the funds for 2 years more of development for BoM. Few game developers have that kind of luxury these days, especially smaller niche ones like MG. I'd say BoM will be released next summer if they don't dry up on pesetas first, in what state/form will it be released? I don't think anyone knows yet. Let's just hope it will come out better than CloD did.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Dano

I'll say it again in the hope that you understand it this time... regardless of what should or could have been we are where we are.

I understood what you said perfectly, I just expressed my opinion -or amazement rather- of the situation. Also, if we still get the free patch for CloD (nothing else have been said yet) I'm a happy camper.

Originally Posted by addman

(the following comment(s) can be disregarded if we get a free patch for CloD)

That's fine and all but I don't see why we have to pay more, we've paid for CloD and that's that. If that wasn't enough, then why didn't they sell us CloD for like 80€ instead? oh, I guess even MG didn't have the stomach to charge that much for an unfinished game, oh snap!

dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that. in essence anything could have happened there however bizzare in appearance or explanation of which there is none off. so it leaves us with bizzare.

we can all agree that its all very bizzare cant we. there after its just our belief system that is kicking in to no effect as it does not provide facts or answers of any form.

anyway heres my belief. sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate and with the name of IL2™ (a guaranteed money generator) i think a deal was struck to get the CLOD on the shelves before the end of that fiscal year as ubisoft were quite literally screwed. i believe a deal was made to continue funding the development. i believe that ubisoft thought they could claw back somthing from the situation for there benefit of that fiscal year. the end result was a mess that we payed for.(ubisoft to blame explicitly) i believe oleg had to go because in reality he got in the way of too many parties intentions by the afore said belief of mine. by parties i mean 1c ,developers, and ubisoft. the result is a mess, but there is a fix seemingly, and its as clear cut and simple as that. but ill say again our belief systems bark us up the wrong path everyday, we are cursed with it in reality. iam no biggot and i do try employ critical thinking where possible. and sorry if i have barked up the wrong tree.

[Pudfark]

Maskirovka....pure and simple.

[addman]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that.

You are most likely correct in your assertions. There's probably a very big picture behind all of this that is for 1c, Ubisoft and MG eyes only. Ubisoft is a money making business just like every other publisher/developer. If they didn't see any money in CloD and it's eventual sequels then it wouldn't have existed, same goes for 1c.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by RCAF_FB_Orville

Underwhelming.

Probably best not to say what I (and no doubt many others) am really thinking, might get in trouble.

Interesting to see how the complaints of a few persistent whingers are handled though. I thought the head shaking was a good feature but just a little bit overdone. Why not provide a user option? Possibly even scaleable? That way everybody's happy. I better shut up though, I'm probably talking too much sense.

So people who could care less about the Battle for Moscow have to pay yet more in order to see features that were misleadingly continually mooted as being in development for CoD, pre release (though cleverly not 'technically' promised I suppose for the pedagogue Sophist's around) . No matter what anybody says, that is the truth. Kept that one quiet pre-CoD release, eh? Fantastic. No more ships or planes either for CoD (AKA 'Slight skirmish over Peckham'). Happy times. I might even be daft enough to buy the sequel.....but you can guarantee others won't. In any event, certainly won't be pre ordering this time. Fool me once.......

Shocking, really.

Ah well, never mind.


Merry Christmas to all, and all the best.

Well said mate.

[GF_Mastiff]

I just hope we don't have another Northrup/Grumman fiasco incident, to happen here.
1C COD team just remember number name your aircraft please this way you won't be using a company named aircraft just the nomenclature which would be legal.

[csThor]

New ground or other objects will not happen due to the fact that our previous attempts to add them were met with a universal “we don’t need this crap, why don’t you give us xyz instead” from the community. The ground modeling staff and myself have subsequently made the fully switch that department to the sequel.

Show me those posts and I may believe it. Right now I don't. Quite honestly I doubt anyone playing a historical simulation with such a blatant disregard of historical facts ... Sorry Ilya, that doesn't float that particular boat.

[JG5_emil]

This is quite a pointless update. Myself and many others are suffering the Crash/memory leak or what ever it is called.

When will it be fixed??

What is the point having any features if you have no idea if the game is going to run for long enough. I looked forward to those JG27 coops but in each one I crashed having run out of memory and this after spending over £2000 on a new PC and further hundreds of pounds on controls and TIR etc. The game worked fine before the last two betas and now it is unplayable except for a short blast on a dogfight server.

Been patient since the release data and supportive all along but now I have just had enough. Shouldn't we get to play CLOD the way it was meant to be played before a new sim/addon comes out.

Anyone else feel like the BOB is going to get left in the dusk unfinished for ever now?

[louisv]

Money must come in, of course...

I agree with Luthier completely, and I think that the sequel will be a brand new program that will (mostly) pick the objects and the maps from the installed CoD, thereby cleaning the code of all the crap put there during the high drama crunch period, changes in programmers, etc...And we will have then what Oleg promissed 6 years ago and an amazing simulation to be sure...

As a former software engineer, I would have taken that decision a while ago...oh wait, they probably did...

Now as to when BfM will come out...Quicker than everybody here thinks...but then I'm an eternal optimist.

Lou

P.S: Happy Holidays and may the new year bring an end ("or the beginning of the end or at least the end of the beginning") to the financial crazyness some really really really greedy people have laid on many, if not most of us...