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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:13 AM
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I pretty much agree with all that Ace of Ace says. We all have the same game and therefore the same code so any differences in performance can only be down to the different hardware/software configurations we all have. Whether it is lower spec hardware or a combination of hardware that has a conflict somewhere or something with the OS or some app that may have a bearing.

I am sure the developers are testing the game on a range of systems and doing thier damdest to get it running well on as wide a gamut as possible as that is thier responsibility. But it is the nature of PCs and complex programmes that users really need to have some idea of how to get the best out of thier systems. This the main reasom I visit this forum - to glean all the little tips and solutions people are coming up with all the time.

I know things change all the time on my system, often for no apparent reason. For instance: Originally nVidia control would not retain Launcher.exe in its list of apps. Then suddenly Launcher.exe stayed in the list and settings applied to it seemed to stick even if not fully working. Now after a month or two it has suddenly gone again. To be honest I see little point in worrying too much about such things untile the actual engine is finally finished and stable as there will always be a danger of chasing your tail. It is a case of being patient, remaining enthusiastic and looking forward to the finalised sim and its sequels.
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Old 12-07-2011, 09:48 AM
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There are facts, and there are opinions. Facts are that there is a "lot of bad code" in CloD, in Luthier's own words.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...10&postcount=1

Then everyone is free to promote CloD despite the issues, to avoid loosing the only WWII CFS today on shelves. But without denying or minimizing the issues, as this humiliates and ridiculizes people experiencing those serious issues.
Also, we e would like that this promotion effort is borne by the devs, also. Again B6 is a step in the right direction, let's hope that trust will be rebuilt, maybe with a strong patch and a good expansion pack.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:24 AM
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Yes trying to run CLOD in crossfire or SLI is not good, trying to use FSAA is also not good. Please note that this is nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD its all to do with your rubbish PC or your rubbish software. Also if you see flickering shadows on trees or if you suffer from object 'pop up' or any stutter then this is also down to your rubbish PC or software and nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD. If all your other games run perfectly in the highest resolutions with everything maxed out then its because your PC is rubbish or the software is set up badly.

AOA lmfao
Wow! You tell us of a problem. People give you the benefit of months of experience to try to help you, so you chuck a wobbly and spit the dummy!

Can I point you to a bit of light reading?

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend.../dp/1439167346

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Old 12-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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And those with top-o-the-line hardware should remember that bad software can bring good hardware to it's knees
Well thank you Ace you just summarized my point very well, glad we agree after all.

BTW Did you ask yourself why the the CloD game engine is being massively overhauled yet?

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Yes trying to run CLOD in crossfire or SLI is not good, trying to use FSAA is also not good. Please note that this is nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD its all to do with your rubbish PC or your rubbish software. Also if you see flickering shadows on trees or if you suffer from object 'pop up' or any stutter then this is also down to your rubbish PC or software and nothing to do with the rubbish coding of CLOD. If all your other games run perfectly in the highest resolutions with everything maxed out then its because your PC is rubbish or the software is set up badly.

AOA lmfao
A little blunt but reflects my opinion very well.

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There are facts, and there are opinions. Facts are that there is a "lot of bad code" in CloD, in Luthier's own words.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...10&postcount=1

Then everyone is free to promote CloD despite the issues, to avoid loosing the only WWII CFS today on shelves. But without denying or minimizing the issues, as this humiliates and ridiculizes people experiencing those serious issues.
Also, we e would like that this promotion effort is borne by the devs, also. Again B6 is a step in the right direction, let's hope that trust will be rebuilt, maybe with a strong patch and a good expansion pack.
Now this is the kind of attitude I like, praising where praise is due without living in denial to the shortcomings of CloD.

On a positive note, progress is being made, futures looks bright, really looking forward to the Moscow expansion now actually.
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Old 12-07-2011, 01:58 PM
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i pretty much agree with all that ace of ace says. We all have the same game and therefore the same code so any differences in performance can only be down to the different hardware/software configurations we all have. Whether it is lower spec hardware or a combination of hardware that has a conflict somewhere or something with the os or some app that may have a bearing.

I am sure the developers are testing the game on a range of systems and doing thier damdest to get it running well on as wide a gamut as possible as that is thier responsibility. But it is the nature of pcs and complex programmes that users really need to have some idea of how to get the best out of thier systems. This the main reasom i visit this forum - to glean all the little tips and solutions people are coming up with all the time.

I know things change all the time on my system, often for no apparent reason. For instance: Originally nvidia control would not retain launcher.exe in its list of apps. Then suddenly launcher.exe stayed in the list and settings applied to it seemed to stick even if not fully working. Now after a month or two it has suddenly gone again. To be honest i see little point in worrying too much about such things untile the actual engine is finally finished and stable as there will always be a danger of chasing your tail. It is a case of being patient, remaining enthusiastic and looking forward to the finalised sim and its sequels.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:35 PM
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Those with technical issues please use the technical section of the forum.

To all other forum users, please read the sections in the top of the forum to search for solutions to your problems also, you wont find solutions griping in this thread about the same old thing over and over, as they will be removed and moved to the technical section.

Thank you for your understanding and appreciation.

Merry Christmas

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Old 12-09-2011, 12:03 PM
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...just wondering if there will be a major update before the end of this year?
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:08 PM
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...just wondering if there will be a major update before the end of this year?
Wonder: "the feeling excited by something strange, a mixture of surprise"

something strange about COD: IMHO no
a surprise: IMHO no

see you next year...
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:37 PM
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A twidde of the knobs perhaps. Wouldn't expect any really significant changes for a good while yet though.
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