Warm Up Times of Radial Engines.

[Robo.]

ElAurens - it only takes few minutes to warm up Mercurys in a Blenheim, too - minimal cylinder head temp. is 200C, you got to watch it very carefully and make sure you take off on the lower treshold as they go very hot on full power. Ideally, roll into take off position when they reach some 120C and if you happen to go past 200, idle till the temp drops to 200 and only then take off. Don't forget to trim your rudder fully left and do a small run up to synch your RPM.

Warming up is much faster with rads fully shut (unrealistic on the ground I know), add more power in steps (you can hear and feel when the engine stops running rough). But don't forget to fully open them on your take-off run. Once airborne, coarsen your prop, lower your boost to some +4PSI (I think) and work with your rad shutters constatnly to keep her between 200-250C. She climbs slowly, the trick is to find a sweet spot between Coarse and Fine pitch in the area around 5 -30 percent.

[ElAurens]

Interesting.

I went on ATAG late last night my time and tried twice to get the G50 off the ground.

I let it warm up for 20 minutes and the oil temp never went above 50C and the cylinder head temp never went above 100. Tried to take off and the first time the engine just started smoking and seized up, and the second time I actully got off the ground, but did not have enough power to sustain lift and crashed just off the runway.

My G50s sure work differently than yours do.

What about mix and prop pitch?

I am at a loss here.

[Sokol1]

Originally Posted by addman

Half an hour to warm up a G.50?! Don't know how you do it but for me it takes 3-4 minutes tops.

I timed Blenheim online (ATAG), took me ~4:56:00 (min/sec) since respawn to gear up.

Sokol1

[JG53Frankyboy]

you are not lost. the warm up of the radials in CoD is realy annoying. and not only online, keep in mind that the AI does not care, imagine flying an offline miision with such a formation, your AI comrades are alrready comming home till you have warmed up your engine

the only "help" i have is to throttle up alwasy a bit during warm up. and the italian planes are even worthervthsn the blenheim in regard to the warm up time....

put it in the WIP category i would say. you know, the game has potential
Imagine such warmup times in the planed easternfront scenaria at a cold winterday. The war is lost long before you are able to start with your I-16 (as example for a radial)

[addman]

Yup! No need for prop or mix settings just give small iincrements of throttle until cylinder temp is 100+ then u may hit full throttle. Never fails for me.

[Luno13]

Warming up is much faster with rads fully shut (unrealistic on the ground I know)

I haven't flown a real plane with radiator control, but in every checklist I remember reading you are supposed to close the radiators when warming up on the ground. Is there another reason?

[ElAurens]

Thanks for the help Addman.

I finally got her up today. BlitzPig_Raven and I flew a full tank draining sortie on ATAG this afternoon. Except for the lack of speed it's a delightful aircraft to fly.

We maneuver killed a Spitfire by getting him to stall and crash in the Channel, then we danced with another Spit till he ran away towards England like a little school girl. Good fun.

Now I wish the CR 42 and Gladiator were flyable. The Brits really need a crap plane.

[addman]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Thanks for the help Addman.

I finally got her up today. BlitzPig_Raven and I flew a full tank draining sortie on ATAG this afternoon. Except for the lack of speed it's a delightful aircraft to fly.

We maneuver killed a Spitfire by getting him to stall and crash in the Channel, then we danced with another Spit till he ran away towards England like a little school girl. Good fun.

Now I wish the CR 42 and Gladiator were flyable. The Brits really need a crap plane.

She's a crap plane lovers dream ain't she? CR42 and Gladiator, yes aaaand yes please! Beware though, I've been shot on by "fellow" 109 pilots, it boggles me, can't they tell the difference between a G.50 and a Spitfire/hurricane? It's happened several times and it ticks me off, maybe they are just teens that don't know so much about WWII aviation.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by addman

How about an extra switch in the Realism options menu called "Warm start" which let all planes warm up quickly while still maintaining the start-up procedures and CEM? It doesn't get much simpler then that, gives the option to those inclined to prefer it.

RoF has it. And all servers (I've flown on) use it. A good idea IMO for CloD as well. But somehow I like it better in CloD...

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by addman

How about an extra switch in the Realism options menu called "Warm start" which let all planes warm up quickly while still maintaining the start-up procedures and CEM? It doesn't get much simpler then that, gives the option to those inclined to prefer it.

OH my... I hated all the start up procedures for flying Falcon.

When you fly the real thing, you have to deal with real world. When you fly a virtual aircraft... YOU ARE PRETENDING. Why not just pretend like an 8 year old kid does and by pass all whoopla associated with a real world warmup. I don't care how far you go with a virtual cockpit you'll never get full real until you ARE FULL REAL.

I don't want all the complications of real flying in a virtual air combat. I prefer the WW2 air combat, because the planes were fast and powerful enough, yet you still need combat skills. The fast movers knocking down enemies at 22 miles away, etc. Just doesn't make sense for enjoyment.

Don't get me wrong. I am for flight simulator experience as you like it. Oleg has clickable cockpits for the people that think that is feeling of full real. LOL

I just can't forget I'm in my office sitting at my desk facing a monitor and holding a joystick designed for that environment.

Heck... I am not even strapped in. Most of the time I'm half reclining in my big old leather chair.

I have a CH Products MFP programmable keyboard. I set everything to as few buttons possible and circumvent all the complications. Yes, I know the complications well enough. What is my excuse. I work consistently with the computer, and what little time I have is so small for flying IL2 or COD. If I get on for 2 hours a week I feel fortunate. Too much to do and too little time to do it.

I sure as heck am not going to sit in front of the screen like some darn dummy and let a computer program manage my time and life waiting for a virtual engine to warm up. I'll sit there a few seconds, after that something better happen.
Anyone that would wait on such a thing is idea candidate for Pochinko the dullest most boring game ever invented. LOL I cannot for any logical reason understand how anyone can sit an watch that ball drop and bounce redundantly for hours and hours and enjoy it.

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