If Land > Refuel, Re-arm, Repair is implemented...How long should each stage take?

[Gerbil Maximus]

Originally Posted by salmo

I find the Zuti MDS (Il2-1946) defaults to be satisfactory.

Repair engine = 90s
Repair flaps = 30s
Repair cockpit = 30s
Repair 1 x MG/cannon = 3s
Repair 1 x F/O tank = 20s
Repair cables = 15s
Refuel = 3s/kg

+1 i think it would be great.

[robtek]

I think 5 to 10 min would be ok, time to get something to drink or visit the john.

It would also help to cool down after a intense fight, delegating planning back to the brain

Then it would also make sense to conserve ones engine, to make faults less likeable.

Of course refly then can only happen, when the plane is lost on or over own territory.

If the pilot is mia, kia or pow, the statistics must be set to zero.

My thoughts.

[salmo]

Originally Posted by robtek

I think 5 to 10 min would be ok, time to get something to drink or visit the john.....

You've obviously never tried to RRR with the enemy over the airfield IMHO 5-10min is way too long. RRR times should be a token representation of the delay required to RRR. In my experience, most players want to RRR as quick as possible & get back into the air. However, if you'r silly enough to get your engine shot out, then should pay the penalty (wait for it to be repaired).

[Sven]

Zuti times were just perfect IMO.

But what about the use of it? Why wouldn't you just respawn in a server? Only in a '1-airframe' situation this could be of use. In online campaigns it's also not so useful, because the battle could last forever if the plane keeps surviving?

[JG53Frankyboy]

i also dont understand it ?!
even more as i have the proplem of waiting in mind in the old IL2 COOP online war times....

if its about personal stats - the scripters most propably are able to 'give' points depending on the condition of your aircraft after landing - engine, structure.
If needed in future online events for 'stat' maniacs

[SNAFU]

I could only consider it useful, for airfields in which you cannnot spawn, but use as frontline fields for refuelling and rearming - no repair. (Provided the right vehicles are around - as in DCS BlackShark). There I would consider 15-20minutes as realistic. This will still be better than flying 30mins back to your base and I usually have 1hour to 1,5hours flight time if I go for realistic missions, so I usually do only one sortie an evening.

For the usuall take-off, shoot, die, repeat - fun, I don´t see the point in landing anyway?

[Zoom2136]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

I don't quite understand the fascination with the RRR function, especially if non-realistic times are used. What's the advantage of this over simply "Refly?" (even though there's not an actual "Refly" button anymore). Is this just a holdover from 1946 for you guys?

Well it could prevent this: You are engage by a bandit near your field. He damages your plane to a point that you makes you combat inafective... BUT you manage to land, get a fresh plane, take off again and nail is ass as he his nursing his overheated engine back home. Sounds familiar?

My vote is make it a server side option with modifiable times. This way it is flexible. Longer times for hardcore server, shorter times for more arcadish types.

my 2c

[csThor]

Still makes no sense to me, Zoom, but then I strive for realism as opposed to the gangbang fetish of most players. I'm with Franky and robtek, although SNAFU's idea is actually brilliant, too. This way one could, for example, designate home bases and forward landing strips in certain situations.

[Bokononist]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

I don't quite understand the fascination with the RRR function, especially if non-realistic times are used. What's the advantage of this over simply "Refly?" (even though there's not an actual "Refly" button anymore). Is this just a holdover from 1946 for you guys?

For me it is about immersion, I'd much rather sort my plane out 'in game' rather than esc to the menu and create again, breaks the immersion for me. No real biggie but it would be nice to be able to take off again in the same plane, especially after a successful sortie.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by SNAFU

I could only consider it useful, for airfields in which you cannnot spawn, but use as frontline fields for refuelling and rearming - no repair. (Provided the right vehicles are around - as in DCS BlackShark). There I would consider 15-20minutes as realistic. This will still be better than flying 30mins back to your base and I usually have 1hour to 1,5hours flight time if I go for realistic missions, so I usually do only one sortie an evening.

For the usuall take-off, shoot, die, repeat - fun, I don´t see the point in landing anyway?

Perfect, someone mentioned this before and it made perfect sense.